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23 Sep 2014 23:50:45
Wm31 card tried to be realisticish.
Brock v Reigns (title)
Bryan v cena (cena turns heel)
Sting v taker
Hhh v ambrose
Rollins v ziggler
Wyatt v kane
Ascencion v wyatts
Goldust v cody
Aj v paige v charlotte

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23 Sep 2014 19:07:54
Nice way to devalue the IC title again creative. Should be a stepping stone to the big one not a game of pass the parcel.

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23 Sep 2014 10:30:08
Who is the bunny anyone know

stephen b

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Really do think it is Justin Gabriel.

S.Hardcastle

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I for one could not care less, funny how this company claims they are not a wrestling comapny (No need to tell us that seeing as there is only 30-40 minutes of matches on a 3 hour show every week). But they claim to be in the entertainment business. I would imagine for that to apply you would have to have at least a third of your show be entertaining which believe me judging from last nights RAW seems an impossible task for WWE

RealBigBear

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If the bunny turns out to be a way of getting someone like Gabriel back on TV in a tag team with Rose I'd say fair enough.

If its just considered funny to see a man in a bunny costume beat up wrestlers and there is no point its epically flawed.

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I read it's Sami Zayn

Ed023

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23 Sep 2014 18:30:29
Judging by move set, (the kick the perching on rope) it's Gabriel

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23 Sep 2014 07:47:34
How predictable, it took all of 5 mins before Cena delivered the line 'I should be WWE champ" I called as soon as they did the screwy finish, absolutely no need for this other than poor writing and 5 years spent not building any new stars. So now are faced with Cena being the only legit looking challenger for the title again. How many times have we seen this play out in the last 10 years. PLEASE BUILD NEW STARS, one top star isn't enough you need 5 or 6 guys capable of carrying the company like they used to have not just one who is only there because he kisses ass better than anyone else and sells a new t-shirt a week to kids

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The company is building new stars, its not enough for people to have Bryan, Reigns, and Ambrose all looking like the mustard, they need to have the company's most bankable star destroyed at the same time.

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My problem is that they should have focused on building new stars 5 years ago, instead of relying on Cena, they have relied on him to such an extent that even people like Orton and Sheamus aren't seen as genuine contenders by most. If they had focused on building and maintaining true main event top tier talent 5 years ago we would not be in the situation where Cena v Lesnar 4 seems inevitable

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Yes Cena is the most bankable star - but that is the fault of the writers and especially Vince. Once Viince has who he thinks in a money spinner, be it Austin, The Rock and now Cena he refuses to let go and squeezes the last out of them, often at the expense of everyone else.
The sooner Vince goes the better.

COYS

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23 Sep 2014 03:31:58
Anyone who has not seen RAW yet, do not worry no spoilers from me but thought I could save people some valuable time. Do not bother watching it. Massive waste of time and I did not even sit through it, I watched a few episodes of boardwalk empire so I could fast forward through the ads and the garbage, lucky if I watched 20 minutes. Still 30 minutes to go but I hold out no hope whatsoever, I was going to buy the network when it comes to here but that has went right out the window now.

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23 Sep 2014 07:06:02
In my opinion I kind of blame lesnar and heyman

Call

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For not being there?

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23 Sep 2014 16:07:23
What do u blame them for?

Ryan!!!!

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23 Sep 2014 16:37:11
Mainly lesnar in my opinion the episodes since lesnar returned before summerslam have been good so that is 4 out of 8 however the other 4 have been poor what I don't understand ultimately the biggest championship in wwe ATM is the us title or ic so really when you have a champion who is a part timer what's the point of unified title really I would be okay as lesnar as the wwe champ and some one like cena as the whc champ and don't see why lesnar has to be the champ he in my opinion is to big to be the champion plus I feel stars like Ziggler, Rollins, Ambrose, cesaro and Sheamus work there butts off for around 365 days and what do they get granted Ambrose and Rollins in my eyes are the best superstars on the roster so surely the best should get the title also Ziggler didn't defend his title for whc or ic yet cesaro hasn't had a look in at any of the major titles. This particularly to Ryan and Bessex I blame them for not being there yes especially heyman he could of come out and talked about how lesnar kicked out of three AA's and how know one can keep lesnar down and for Lssnar why does he have to be champion in my opinion a champion needs to be there every week saying why he won't loss no video package that gets repeated every time he isn't there is going to impress me. Plus look at previous champions of the wwe title / whc title.

Cena

Bryan

Orton

I have respected for these guys as they were on week after week as champions competing against other contenders lesnar competes 5 times a year those superstars above compete 200 times a year this is the difference between a pure superstar and athlete and Brock Lesnar who probably gets more money than these 3 superstars a year

Call

Ed08{Ed008's Note - You'd be surprised how much Cena and Orton earns yearly compared to Brock Lesnar, cannot understand how some people are not enjoying Lesnar's run as Champion the whole plot about him not being around week in week out is because he is an attraction in a promo Lesnar talked about him having to show up a week before the PPV to sell it because of who he is, the WWE World Champion very rarely defends on a TV show so what would Lesnar be doing? Competing week in week out? Why? Cena doesn't he goes through parts of the year where he doesn't until the PPV you just don't notice it.

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23 Sep 2014 18:53:06
Yes but cena did compete in non title matches on raw unlike lesnar does

Call

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23 Sep 2014 20:52:52
People want to see lesnar if he was out fightin meaningless matches it would be pointless save him for the ppv he's the man

Ryan!!!!

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22 Sep 2014 20:29:25
Did anyone else here Paige shout 1, 2, 3! during the superplex/powerbomb spot? Also Jericho saying "stairs" to Orton before throwing him into them? Gutted for Ziggler as well, and although I thought he was great a few years ago, Mark Henry just can't cut it anymore. Rollins potential cash in had me on the edge of my seat!

Goldust/Stardust vs Usos: B+
Cesaro vs Sheamus: A-
Ziggler vs Miz: Match A- Result C
Rollins/Ambrose A
Rusev vs Mark Henry: C
Orton vs Jericho: A
AJ vs Paige vs Nikki Bella: B=
Lesnar vs Cena: B+

Follow The Buzzards

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I actually really enjoyed Night of Champions, there was a lot of huffing and puffing for no pay off, but I was gripped when I thought rollins was cashing in.

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22 Sep 2014 18:26:16
As you can see from my post on the live comment page I am really annoyed with the finish to the main event, my main problem isn't the match I thought it was exciting and I was intrigued to see how much offense Cena got in and also how well Brock sold it and then came back himself. My problem is that due to Rollins coming out Cena has the 'the match was won, the STF was locked in Brock was going to tap' card to play, he looks like SuperCena again and Brock does look a liitle weaker because of it (kindda ruins how strong he has been built up this year). My other bug bear is that it was a chance to change Cena's character without turning him heel, but they wasted it. Imagine if Cena actually tapped out or even looked close to it (at least Lesnar teased he might tap, Cena never did). Cena would have to face the fact the 'never give up' and 'hustle loyalty and respect' didn't work for the first time ever. How would he react to that? What would he do instead? It could have made the for great TV. Now we will get week after week of Cena saying he should be champ as match was won he proved that he doesn't need to change to defeat the beast and it will lead to Lesnar Cena at Hell in a Cell, the forth encounter since 2012, almost half Lesnar's matches since his return will have been against Cena, what a waste of Lesnar, everytime they face each other it gets a little less box office. I just think this was a massive opportunity wasted to not only enhance Lesnar's monster personna thus adding more kudos to whoever eventually defeats him, but to also change Cena's stale boring repetative persona. Really tempted to stop watching for a while until creative actually get creative, sorry for the long post.

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The WWE have got themselves in a bit of a mess with Lesnar. They built him up as the unstoppable beast - the man who ended the streak, the man who destroyed Cena. The WWE needed a genuine monster and they finally got one in Lesnar.
BUT. Vince believes in Cena. He thinks Cena carries the weight on the WWE on his shoulders and believes he is one of the all time greats. I also think Cena believes this too.
So he brings out past greats to discuss Cena in the ring and on camera and to agree with Vince.
So we have Lesnar as the unstoppable monster and Cena as the hope of the Universe.
The trouble with Cena is that the same old rubbish comes again and again. He loses to someone like Lesnar or the Rock and on the next RAW he addresses the crowd after he has time to collect his thoughts.
Yes he deserved to lose, yes he knows that a part of the crowd are pleased with this, yes he has faced his demons, yes he will come back even stronger, yes he will redeem himself.
Sure enough a superman performance to enhance his image follows.
The same thing happens when he is injured. Cue the montage - clips of surgery, clips of gentle training, clips of harder training usually involving medicine balls, clips of the surgeon saying he cannot believe how quickly he is returning. A triumphant return in the ring soon followed by yet another world championship, usually at the cost of some poor sap who has been carrying the load in Cena's absence or by Cena crashing a promising feud.
Personally, I don't think Lesnar will be at Hell in a Cell but will return at Survivor Series. Will Cena be the number one contender? He has lost his automatic rematch clause so I dare say he will be in a final eliminator with Orton and possibly Rollins and Reigns at Hell in a Cell. I will be rooting for anyone except Cena in this match, but I fear that I will be disappointed and we will have another Cena/Lesnar match.
Please let's have some originality instead.

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I hope the run in ending will lead to a deciding Hell in a Cell match between the two, and I hope its as brutal as Summerslam.

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22 Sep 2014 16:21:37
Just seen the wwe 2k15 trailer it looks immense I reckon that is what the new generation tweet was last week

Call

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It looks pretty cool, then if you had two old guys playing chess jumping between camera angles playing Kid Rock over the top it would look cool.

I have been waiting for a PS4 WWE game for over a year. Bring it on.

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22 Sep 2014 19:34:56
Here here bessex getting ps4 on Friday for fifa already have wwe 2k15 preorded

Call

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22 Sep 2014 21:12:16
How about bessex at the of the trailer it shows sting holding his bat and then the lights go off and sting is there live holding his bat in the middle of the ring and lights go off and he disappears

Call

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I didn't follow what you were getting at there, Call?

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22 Sep 2014 14:57:06
last night's ppv wasn't great but it wasn't terrible.
was quite disappointed in the henry and rusev match because thought henry looked weak. seemed like swagger put up more of a fight in previous matches with rusev.

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22 Sep 2014 05:47:29
Aw man, I've missed this site. Love the improvements you eds have made - the new site looks great lads.

Anyway, any of you guys on twitter tonight for NOC?

j1985

Ed08{Ed008's Note - I was on twitter all night for the PPV great to have you back!

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22 Sep 2014 03:53:12

Night of Champions Poll!!! Vote here! http://www.talk-wrestling.com/poll164.html

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22 Sep 2014 00:22:09
Ed023

Night of Champions Predictions

AJ Lee vs Nikki Bella vs Paige

AJ Lee

Cesaro vs Sheamus

Cesaro

Dolph Ziggler vs The Miz

Dolph Ziggler

Mark Henry vs Rusev

Rusev

Goldust & Stardust vs The Usos

Goldust and Stardust

Chris Jericho vs Randy Orton

Randy Orton

Roman Reigns (Maybe Ambrose) vs Seth Rollins

Dean Ambrose

Brokck Lesnar vs John Cena

Brock Lesner

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21 Sep 2014 20:32:48
I actually think I am looking forward to the RAW after NOC more than NOC itself.
A number of issues will have been settled.
The Cena question will have resolved one way or the other, at least for the time being.
The tepid feuds of Orton/Jericho, Rusev/Henry & Ziggler/Miz will hopefully be over and new storylines can be introduced.
Ambrose is due back (though most suspect that he will be drawn into NOC now Reigns is missing).
The Dusts will hopefully have won the tag titles, which is starting to show some promise with the USOs, Wyatts, The Ascension (hopefully) all involved.
Either Cesaro/ Sheamus or Ziggler/Miz have a chance to try to unite the titles (long overdue) with a large number of mid-carders being involved.
The Divas will still be all about Paige & AJ still, even though I wouldn't be surprised if Bella won tonight.
NXT wrestlers could even have their chance.
Then of course there is Rollins/Reigns/Ambrose.
There is a chance to start some interesting feuds building up to Wrestlemania.

COYS

Ed08{Ed008's Note - Survivor Series is where it all starts for me after tonight!

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20 Sep 2014 23:43:53
Night of Champions Predictions

AJ Lee vs Nikki Bella vs Paige

Ed007: Nikki Bella
Ed008: Paige
Ed039: Nikki Bella

Cesaro vs Sheamus

Ed007: Sheamus
Ed008: Cesaro
Ed039: Cesaro

Dolph Ziggler vs The Miz

Ed007: Dolph Ziggler
Ed008: Dolph Ziggler
Ed039: Dolph Ziggler

Mark Henry vs Rusev

Ed007: Rusev
Ed008: Rusev
Ed039: Mark Henry

Goldust & Stardust vs The Usos

Ed007: The Usos
Ed008: Goldust & Stardust
Ed039: Goldust & Stardust

Chris Jericho vs Randy Orton

Ed007: Randy Orton
Ed008: Randy Orton
Ed039: Randy Orton

Roman Reigns vs Seth Rollins

Ed007: Seth Rollins
Ed008: Seth Rollins
Ed039: Seth Rollins

Brokck Lesnar vs John Cena

Ed007: Brock Lesnar
Ed008: John Cena
Ed039: Brock Lesnar

With the news that Roman Reigns has undergone surgery for a hernia injury, I expect Ambrose to return and face Seth Rollins at the PPV and win thus continuing their feud where it left off at.

What's everybody else's predictions for the PPV?

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21 Sep 2014 09:21:30
Okay here are mine

Paige vs nikki vs aj - Nikki

Sheamus vs cesaro - Cesaro double turn Sheamus heel and cesaro face

Ziggler vs miz - Ziggler

Rusev vs Henry - Rusev wins then moves on with a feud against cena

Y2J vs orton - Orton

Rollins vs reigns - Not going to happen but Rollins will come out with a ref and 10 the count thing and on 9 Ambrose music plays and he returns setting up for a match which Ambrose wins.

Lesnar vs Cena - Lesnar

Call

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Reigns not at NOC? Any thoughts on Rollins cashing in tonight after a 'brave redemption' from Cena leaves Lesnar vulnerable?

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Nikki Bella, Cesaro, Ziggler, Golddust Stardust, Rusev, Rollins, Lesnar,

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Oh and Orton to beat Jericho.

Kro

Monkeyman KRO

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21 Sep 2014 17:19:03
Bella (unfortunately)
Sheamus
Ziggler
Rusev
Dust Busters
Orton
Lesnar

Gotta feeling Ambrose may be a surprise opponent for Seth, if that's the case then Ambrose for the win.

Woody101

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Yeah, if Ambrose faces Rollins instead of Reigns then I'll go for Ambrose to win.

Monkeyman KRO

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I think we can mix two on-going topics here, NOC predictions and Vince.
If Cena does win, then it will all be down to Vince who still seems to believe that Cena is the best champion of all time. Also it would help with the WWE contract with Matel and the rest. Like him or not, Cena sells action figures.
If this nightmare situation does happen two things will happen.
1. It will show how out of touch Vince now is
2. WWE will have sunk to a whole new level.
Oh and a 3rd one. BigBear will explode.

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20 Sep 2014 17:30:39
WWE.com are reporting Roman Reigns has undergone emergency surgery on a incarcerated hernia thus ruling him out of the Night of Champions PPV.

ED008   ED008
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20 Sep 2014 20:04:45
Ambrose return then

Call

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20 Sep 2014 20:49:06
Is this legit or part of the storyline

Call

Ed08{Ed008's Note - Seems legit but part of me thinks it was the whole plan for the PPV a way to introduce Ambrose back and maybe Reigns had been carrying the injury for a while but then that would be giving WWE too much credit..

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20 Sep 2014 22:33:49
Quite ironic really Bryan looked as though he was becoming a huge face then he got injured, now reigns becomes a huge fan favourite then he gets injured

Call

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Sorry that's coincidence. Not irony

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They are running out of faces to push against the Authority.

Wyatt turn perhaps?

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20 Sep 2014 11:36:22
Following his recent 'open letter' to the WWE, Russo has now done an 8 minute video to Vince McMahon.
It seems to be part rant, part 'I was responsible for the attitude era' part from the heart and part a plea for a job. His dearvineproject web site seems to be self promotion, but he did make one very valid point.
Russo states he hasn't bought the network yet as the standard of current wrestling, in particular RAW, does not justify the fee.
I feel the same and while we don't know the cost yet, I feel that what is advertised will not justify aa monthly fee yet.

COYS

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20 Sep 2014 13:37:16
Will raw still not be on sky sports when the network launches?

Ryan!!!!

Ed08{Ed008's Note - Raw and Smackdown will stay on Sky Sports.

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The ppvs will be on Sky box office, I have access to a Xfinity login and NOC is available to order through them for $44. 99 :O

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I don't know how much time I am willing to spend watching old wrestling, so its kind of a waste of cash.

I will have Sky Sports for the footy anyway.

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19 Sep 2014 23:15:22
1. Night of Champions PPV this Sunday and we will be having our usual Live discussion during the show send in your posts as normal and follow it on http://www.talk-wrestling.com/live-wrestling-talk.php

2. Thank You to everyone who has signed up for the Fantasy League starting next Monday surprised by the amount of people who have signed up with some new posters don't stop there join in the daily discussion on the page with the regulars..

3. Point scoring for the Fantasy League start from Monday Night Raw BUT Champions going into the show will be rewarded with their points for being the Champion for example:
Championship Wins
WWE Title 25pts
IC & US Title 15pts
Tag Team Titles 10pts
Divas Title 5pts

ED008   ED008
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Is there anyway you can change your team once its been picked as my team is the same as about 10 others

SGB

Ed07{Ed007's Note - Don't worry about it, there will be transfer windows throughout the year, the first one will be in January.}

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Cant wait for it to start lol

stephen b

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I notice a lot of guys have Riegns, will there be any room to change the teams?

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19 Sep 2014 18:48:49
Just seen a tweet from wwe you have been waiting for so long now it's time #NewGeneration #9/22/14 I reckon the ascension could make their debut

Call

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Most likely release date for 2K15 on the next gen platforms

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20 Sep 2014 14:01:19
Might be the NXT roster reveal for the game if it ain't released already. Hope its Ascension tho.

Woody101

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The problem with setting up these you have to watch to find out promos is that unless its something awesome people will be cheesed.

If its a new stable or an NXT arrival then great, if it turns out to be an ad for the new game they will have an arena of PO'd customers. Again.

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19 Sep 2014 10:36:03
With the rumors rife that Austin is training for one more match who would we all like to see Austin face off against if he did have one more match?

S.Hardcastle

Ed08{Ed008's Note - John Cena or Brock Lesnar

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Id like to see HHH vs Vince vs Austin for control of the WWE

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19 Sep 2014 17:06:32
I'd like to see Austin v Cena or Austin v Lesnar. I'd also like to see Austin v CM Punk. For more obscure choices Austin v Daniel Bryan would be good. If you could use Austin to get him over then Austin v Ambrose (the 'new Austin' imo) would be quality and would be 'best for business' the only problem is the fans will turn on pretty much anyone if they face Austin.

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19 Sep 2014 20:06:53
Austin v Wyatt

Woody101

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20 Sep 2014 08:22:15
hope its just rumours he really struggled to get down to the ring at mania last year would hate for him to do him self any unjust by fighting one last fight would rather him form a stable and go against the macmahon/hhh with him as the leader behind the scenes. maybe like a surpries after a few months that it was him behind it all

SGB

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Austin and Rock one more time would still sell loads of tickets.

They could probably wrestle each other in their sleep too.

With their mic work it could make three months of must see tv leading up to the match

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20 Sep 2014 20:04:04
For me This HAS to be Austin vs punk anything else I don't really want to see because I think Austin needs someone who can help him shine even if he can't like he used to. Austin vs ambrose would be good though

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Austin could come back and work with anyone.

I don't go a lot on these one match deals, he should work the full Mania season. Three matches at Rumble, Chamber, and Mania, win two then put someone over.

I think he owes Brock one to be honest.

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18 Sep 2014 15:09:28
Wrestlemania 31:
I would love the Authority to be in the ring acting all smug as usual when all of a sudden Angle's music hits and he comes out and berates HHH. Angle says that since Vince left him in charge the product has suffered and the board of directors have noticed that Raw is losing viewers as well as the company losing money so they have decided that they would like to wish you well on your future endeavors and that as replacement COO the following rectifications will be implied. Brock Lesnar you will face Daniel Bryan in a submissions match for the WWE World Heavyweight Title, Seth Rollins you will face Dean Ambrose in a no holds barred match and HHH as you are still an active member of the roster you will face "The Best In The World" CM Punk inside a steel cage. Just as he is about to leave he remembers that Stephanie is in the ring and he informs her that she has a one on one with Brie Bella and if anybody interferes then they will be fired.

Scouse_Pride

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18 Sep 2014 18:00:26
Cant people just get over Punk & except he ain't coming back anytime soon.

Woody101

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19 Sep 2014 17:10:31
Would love to see Angle and CM Punk back! Can't see either happening for a while though.

Monkeyman KRO

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This will never happen as they will never go into WM with out the top matches set. Would you pay to watch a PPV where you didn't know the main matches?

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This does nothing for me.

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17 Sep 2014 21:21:40
What's everyone hoping the main event of WrestleMania 31 will be at this stage, realistically?

UnitedForMe

Ed08{Ed008's Note - Batista vs Triple H for the WWE World Championship..

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17 Sep 2014 22:14:15
Brock v Bryan

Woody101

Ed08{Ed008's Note - Helluva a match that would be!

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17 Sep 2014 22:20:57
am going for Brock vs Bryan

MATOLI83

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17 Sep 2014 23:52:09
bryan vs brock


would like to see punk vs bryan but that's a bit of a long shot

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Heart wants Taker vs Brock II. Head says Reigns Vs Brock

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Can't see Brock v Bryan. If Cena can't beat Brock then would anyone believe Bryan had a chance. It will be Reigns unfortunately

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I am sure the headline will be Reigns or Bryan vs Brock for the title.

But the main event will be if they can keen Rollins Vs Ambrose as hot as its been and set up a blow off at Mania.

I will be impressed if Ambrose can stop Rollins cashing in right through until then, perhaps denying him pinning Brock after Elimination Chamber could be the final straw, setting up a big gimmick match for Mania.

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As it stands, I would love to see the three headline matches being;

WWE Championship
Brock Lesnar (C) vs The Rock

Dean Ambrose vs Seth Rollins

John Cena vs Roman Reigns


I don't think any of the 3 former Shield members are ready for the title yet, I would wait til at least the last night of his holding of the briefcase before Rollins cashes in, successfully or not.

I believe it would be more beneficial for Reigns, who will be the next big face of the company, to go over John Cena at this stage than be rushed into being champion.

Rock vs Brock, it may be two part-timers, but it would draw massive numbers and is a match I'd personally love to see.

UnitedForMe

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18 Sep 2014 18:06:26
This thread proves that the most talented all rounder in the company has been buried (or at least forgotten about). Bray Wyatt.
Would rather see Bray v Ambrose at mania than the story with Seth (as good as its been so far) to run that long.

Woody101

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I'm not certain that Bryan will be fit even for Wrestlemania.
Main event?
Brock - v - Orton.

Back-up
I can see a situation for a Shield triple threat match. I have a feeling that Ambrose & Reigns will not stay buddies until than.

Over-hyped match
Cena - v - anyone, but he will probably be the one to save the stars & stripes by beating Rusev.

Best Match
If the Shield one doesn't happen then a US Champios match involving Sheamus, Barrett, Cesaro & Swagger.

Most obvious match
AJ - v - Paige (again)

Surprise Match
Batista - v - HHH

Saddest mach
Taker - v?

COYS

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17 Sep 2014 19:32:35
can't see cena walking away as champ sunday.
it'll be a close match but I think brock will win.
cena will probably get rusev next

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Cena has been booked as a weakling lately which means somebody will cop for it next. unfortunately it will probably be Rusev

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Ed08{Ed008's Note - But who faces Lesnar after this PPV? Where are the Babyfaces? Also you two not interested in the Fantasy League Albo and Gooner Mark?

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19 Sep 2014 23:55:49
There's strong rumours that Big Show is next in line for Lesnar, please god noooooo.

Woody101

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I thought Henry was being built up for Lesnar.

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17 Sep 2014 13:09:37
Vince McMahon really needs to just go away now. He has not got a clue what entertainment is anymore and he sure as hell has not got a clue about good wrestling. Almost every sh*t decision that is made and makes it on to TV is through him. Again we have reached another point where if Cena wins I am done with it. Like Bessex my interest is waining to the point I just listen to Bruce Blitz review and if anything sounds good I will check it out. I seen the Cena segments this week and they were terrible, apart from Heyman. So if Cena takes that title off Lesnar or Lesnar gets himself counted out or disqualified on purpose then cheerio.

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If Lesnar gets DQ'd due to absolutely annihilating Cena with chairs, ring bell and anything else he can get his hands on then i'd be happy with that.

Would build up his monster beast image and who isn't happy seeing Cena get destroyed?

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17 Sep 2014 15:04:26
Vince is never going to give it up, only the grim reaper can stop him. So its either death or another promotion can get to WCW's level & make them pull their fingers out.

Woody101

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Hopefully since the WWE floated the share holders will be able to put enough pressure on to ensure Vince hangs up his tights. His ideas seem so out-dated, his idea of what to him is comedy is mearely cringe worthy to everyone else and his blind belief in Cena is unforgiveable.

COYS

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I actually enjoyed certain bit of Raw this week.

What I didn't get was why did Riegns face rollins one on one if they are doing it at Night Of Champions? I've seen it now, apparently i'm going to see it again on Smackdown.

I enjoyed Heyman and Cena, and thought that Khali was actually a little funny.

I enjoyed Brock coming down, I enjoyed seeing Cena lose it with Heyman.

I really enjoyed seeing an under card match promo get to close out Raw with Henry and Rusev, that really made what is in fairness an enhancement match seem more important.

I like the fact they had tag matches pitting the NOC opponents against each other in mixed up matches.

It wasn't bad, its just always a little bit of a let down.

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17 Sep 2014 09:36:42
Should Night Of Champions be renamed to Night Of The Champion because apart from Brock v Cena I doubt anybody gives a flying f about any of the other title matches.

Woody101

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I am actually looking forward to the tag team title match.

but Miz vs Ziggler is old hat, and Cesaro vs Sheamus is done to death.

I hope they produce something unexpected.

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I'm with both of you - only 2 matches really worth it.
Orton - v Jericho seems just chucked together and I really don't get it. Henry is only warming the plate up for cena to be the one to eventually beat Rusev.
Don't see the point of spoiling a decent divas feud by adding anyone else to AJ & Paige.
Reigns & Rollins seems to have been added to pad out the bill when it has the potential to be the best of the lot & they have already just done it on RAW.
Some new feuds have to start coming into place to slowly build up to Mania.

COYS

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16 Sep 2014 20:57:28
I hear that Christian is returning to WWE soon.
What is the point? Batista returns and goes. RVD returns and goes. Christian? Not as good as either of the above. Fail to see the need to fill a space by bringing him back. Give the new faces on NXT a chance.
WWE is already starting to look like it has a 'masters' section. Old faces return, talk about how good Cena is, get disrespected by a heel and get rescued by a face (normaly Cena).
Please, please, please. Give the new guys a chance to take centre stage.
I don't want Sting v Undertaker at Wrestlemania a good 20 years after it should have happened. I don't want Angle back to be beaten by Cena.
There is sufficient talent in the WWE at the moment and great potential from NXT.
Come on HHH. While the networks and shareholders demand names (Hogan, Piper etc) there is a great chance to build up a programme to rival the 90's.

COYS

Ed08{Ed008's Note - I'd take Heel Christian vs Dolph Ziggler for the IC Title..

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17 Sep 2014 02:14:04
I agree, don't see the point in having him back. Barely noticed he was gone. Dolph has plenty of contenders for the IC title in the likes of Cesaro, Dallas & returning Barrett down the line plus whoever comes up from NXT.

Woody101

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Wasn't Arn Anderson credited with saying "I know its s***, but they will cheer it because its new s***"

I personally believe you can make more shock moments the established stars you have, especially if you rest them for 9 months a year.

A peep show seems daft, if Christian ran in and cost Shamus the US or Ziggler the IC titles you'd have the makings of a fine tv feud. It would have got a huge pop if nobody had know he was there as well.

Bring the vets back for short stints, entwine them with up and comers, and main event feuds make a better show.

Who can say they've seen anything on Smackdown in the last year that would fill 20 minutes better than Christian vs Sami Zayn?

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16 Sep 2014 11:59:58
Another below average raw sped through watching it, cena heyman bit was good again mainly due to heyman, and I enjoyed reigns vs Rollins but that was about it, going to be missing NOC and raw as I'm in spain on holiday so going to have to have a serious catch up on my return.

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17 Sep 2014 02:09:47
Seth & reigns match was good but ruined by the blatant communication between the 2, need to improve covering it up better, especially Seth.

Woody101

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The fact I still haven't bothered to check it out suggests my interest in WWE is waning again.

Start of the footy season isn't helping, I could be accidently taking a break because I can't be bothered to check out the recording.

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16 Sep 2014 05:44:57
Just read a tweet from our twitter page and we nearly have 50 entrants for the fantasty league which is awesome plus it makes much more competive and tons more interesting.

Call

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I put my stable in a realised than some people have the exact same line up.

I am interested to see how this develops as a game.

Good on the guys for taking the time to make it.

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15 Sep 2014 21:19:55
So I hear brock lesnar is being paid 5 million per year is this true because that's not bad 4/5 ppvs a year so around 15 appearances for that much do you guys agree with that wwe should prefer wwe paying a ridicolus amount of money like 5 million to try and punk back

Call

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I think the WWE makes more money than that off of Brocks appearances and merch every year and they have to meet his terms.

If they don't pay him what he wants he won't cry about it, he just won't come to work there.

Brock shouldn't work and earn money to subsidise people who don't draw.

If Vince is paying him $5m and only earning an extra $4m then its a problem, but what percentage of the money he makes the WWE is he allowed to demand?

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I always say the same about footballers, Rooney is earning £300k a week, but he is in the top 1% of what he does, shouldn't he earn a large percentage of United's income?

Where does that money go if you don't give it to the performer?

Brocks the same, he on a par with only The Rock is the biggest draw in Wrestling. He should earn a fortune.

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Punk for me will never be on Lesnars level. But leave it another couple of years and he will be able to command a nice lump sum for a similar limited appearance deal.

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Brock is a genuine monster. Nobody else like him in wrestling. Worth every penny and will earn more for WWE than he takes out.
Mind you, Cena probably earns more for WWE than anyone else and I begrudge him that.

COYS

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17 Sep 2014 02:03:45
A part time Lesnar is worth more than a full time Punk.

Woody101

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Punk is beloved by wrestling fans, but Brock is must see TV.

He made me a UFC fan, I followed him over there and got interested and UFC are still taking my money after he's called it a day.

Whats that worth? its priceless!

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15 Sep 2014 21:09:40
Was reading somewhere yesterday that Cena currently sells more mechandise than the rest of the roster combined. So basically if you want rid of Cena you'll need to dig deep and buy big to knock him off his perch.

Vince is all about the Benjamins

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15 Sep 2014 22:23:11
Only reason he sells more than all combined is because he probably has more than everyone combined. He has a new shirt every month where everyone else are lucky to get 1 a year.

Woody101

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Cena is the most heavily supported guy, he is the Real Madrid of Wrestling.

If there was a market for Kofi's stuff they would make more.

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What? That makes no sense. It's supply and demand. If the Ziggler shirts were being sold they would make more.

If people weren't buying his stuff they would stop making it

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As much as we are tired of Cena being the hero, how many Shield shirts do grown men buy by comparison to how many Cena shirts kids buy?

Its all online, everyone has products, you can buy yourself some Mark Henry or Bad News Barrett gear right now, but let's be honest you probably don't have anywhere to wear a Cesaro shirt, I know I don't.

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If they did a line of Lana's worn undies then the adult fan would truly have a reason to knock Cena off his merchandise perch

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Of course Cena makes more than everyone else. The younger you are, the more merchandise your parents will buy for you. I refer you to Heyman's description of Cena - those who cheer for him are tucked into bed by their mummies.
Simplistic I know, but not too far from the truth.

COYS

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The point isn't who is buying it, its how much they are spending, and little Jimmy's dollars are worth they same as anyone elses and he wants a bright purple baseball hat like his favourite wrestlers.

I'm spending my hard earned on beer and bills.

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15 Sep 2014 20:09:20
Dean Ambrose is scheduled to appear next on RAW at Memphis the day after NOC. Just to chuck a possible spanner in, what if he appears at NOC, interferes with Reigns/Rollins and costs Reigns the match?
And if I hear the words Cena & redemption in the same sentence again I will not be responsible for my actions.

COYS

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15 Sep 2014 21:00:55
i like the thought of that, gives them a start to a 3 way feud, iv seen past clips of them in triple threat matches together an they were on fire all 3 wrestlers were quality! a triple threat with ambrose- rollins -regins on any ppv would definitely be match of the year?!

MATOLI83

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15 Sep 2014 21:16:00
I don't know why COYS I had the same idea but would wwe turn Ambrose heel as I think at the moment he is biggest baby face

Call

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Could cause Reigns to loss by a DQ finish?

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Ambrose is so good at his job I believe he could pull off anything.

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16 Sep 2014 20:17:43
Here here bessex raw hasn't been the same over the past couple of weeks with no Ambrose

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It doesn't have to be a face turn - could be a DQ as Ambrose attacks Rollins.
A face turn is not on the cards at the moment, but if it does happen would be as unexpected as when the Shield split.

COYS

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I still say eventually Ambrose will get his revenge, then somewhere down the line they rehash the feud with Rollins as face and Ambrose as the bad guy.

The problem is Dean makes everything so cool I don't see him being cheered no matter what.

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