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18 Apr 2014 13:38:01
I think this rivalry with evolution and the shield is pretty amazing but, to make it better I think both sets of teams should have a manger with them, ric flair should return to manage evolution and who would you suggest should manage the shield if they did decide to bring managers into the frame? - Princey

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Let crow sting do it. Would be something worthwhile for him to do and reignite his old rivalry with Flair

mickrude

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No great choice of managers around right now so I'd leave The Shield as they or get Dusty or Regal into manage at a push

Jim

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I think the Shield are good as they are, the old school outlaws who don't answer to anyone.

BigBear

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I'd definatly like to see Flair back in Evolutions corner but Sheild don't need anybody.

Woody

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If I was gun to head forced to choose a manager for the shield then it would need to fill this criteria:
1) anti establishment/WWE
2) well liked
3) can talk very well
4) expert in tag team wrestling
5) a well experienced manager
6) carries a racket of some sort
7) wears colourful suits
8) initials JC
9) has a podcast
10) wears a pair of glasses.
so Zeb Colter it is then.

JEPW

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18 Apr 2014 12:07:44
With RAW viewing figures dropping (close to going under 4m for the first time in ages) what would you do to freshen up the show?
Personally I would split the shows even more that they are at the moment.
Raw was always at it's best with the attitude era. When Stone Cold ruled the roost the viewing figures were closse to 6m. Figures started dropping when the shows split.
I would try to regain the credibility of RAW by bringing back the attitude and having a roster to back this up - Evolution, The Shield, Lesnar, Cesaro, Barrett (without the bad news) etc with some new faces coming in from NXT. The whole point of the attitude era was there was no great baby-faced messiah type which is personified by the likes of Bryan & Cenaa now. Nobody could claim the Austin, the Rock etc were like this.
Smackdown could continue with it's PG image with Cena, Bryan, Usos, Sheamus, Mysterio etc which would allow the young viewers to enjoy the good guy v bad guy fare. Again new wrestlers could appear and develop their characters and eventually progress to the main RAW show. The younger viewers would still buy their merchandise and would hopefully progress on to the more serious stuff as they get older.
I know this won't happen, but I woul really like to see it.

COYS

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17 Apr 2014 20:39:56
With Adam rose's impending arrival, I will be most upset if there isn't a feud between him and fandango or 3mb

Green lantern

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I personally preferred him as Leo Kruger instead of the Adam Rose gimmick. Vince has a thing for these weird feminine gimmicks. I will keep an open mind but if this is handled anything like Fandango then I already know the outcome.

BigBear

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I hope not, if that's the case why bother? its like Xavier woods. he was in development for ages, gets called up and jobs from the off. if your calling them up do something with them!!

albo

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I liked him as Leo kreuger as well, but I kinda like Adam rose too, agree with Xavier woods it's push, but rusev and Paige have hit the ground running,
Main question, why is no getting a call up?,

Green lantern

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Ment to be bo

Green lantern

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I agree with Big Bear and others who preferred Leo Kruger. I have only seen Adam Rose twice and I preferred him the second time but I find it odd that he is getting pushed through so quickly whilst Neville and Zayn remain in NXT. The plus side is that NXT will remain high quality for the time being.

L. O. D

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17 Apr 2014 17:30:50
Would like to know what are everyones personal opinion on what a clean loss is. I hold a pretty high standard on what losing clean is to me.

1: It is hard to declare a loss clean in stipulation matches.

2: There must be none of the following: illegal blows, interference, ref bump that forces a missed tap or pin or illegal weapons.

3: In terms of psychology there must be no excuses used such as injuries or not being completely focused on the match as these are used to plant seeds of doubt into people's heads.

4: Flat out tap or take a pin and if you must speak of the match the other guy was simply just better on the night. Heels can get away with some moaning but faces not so much.

Anyone else want to give there definition of clean loss or add something I may have missed?

BigBear {Ed007's Note - A clean win/loss is simply when a match ends with a decisive victor in a manner that is within all the rules of wrestling and/or stipulations of the match.}.

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Not allowed out of ring as more damaged done outside and more running out and in ring to attack opponents

Call

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I kind of agree with you big bear, but I think that with your criteria in relation to no prior injuries etc that is very difficult to class as if you look at other sports such as football or boxing for example there is nearly always some excuse for defeat, therefore would you not class that as a clean win?

Kro83

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I try to treat wrestling differently due to it being scripted and when I talk of injuries I mean like when they start using injuries as an excuse be it either kayfabe or real. There are plenty of occasions where wrestlers have wrestled genuinely hurt and it has not been mentioned whether they have lost or won. The best example I can give right now is the Cena and Bryan match at summerslam, for weeks Cena wrestled with that ball on his elbow without it really getting a mention then as soon as he is wrestling Bryan in that main event where they knew he was losing, he has the arm strapped up, the commentators did not shut up about the arm and then the next night on RAW Cena basically said this "I am not making excuses, BUT LOOK AT MY ARM!". In terms of team sports you can maybe say a win is slightly tainted if say a star player is out or they are missing a few key players. In boxing my view is if you make the decision to go in and fight then you are well enough to fight so do not bring up any knocks you might have for example David Haye and his toe, I am a haye fan but that annoyed me.

BigBear

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Cheers for clearing that up I can see where your coming from, and for the record that David haye excuse was embarrassing! It's also like Vincent Kompany being apparently injured against Liverpool, when I watched that match on sky he was at fault for all 3 goals and the commentary team blamed it purely on him being injured.

Kro83

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17 Apr 2014 15:38:00
I know almost everyone wanted Bryan as champ, myself included, and I'm delighted that he is. Above all else it shows that the WWE are willing to go in a different direction, because let's be honest Bryan is not a Rock or Austin as far as megastar goes, he is not a HHH as far as look goes, he is not even on par with the other smaller guys who got runs with the title (Jericho, Angle, Rey, Eddie) when it comes to his look.

My question is, it looks like Kane may be his first challenger, so would anyone grudge Kane winning? He has never had a meaningful run with the top title, despite in terms of service, consistency, longevity etc he is third only to Taker and HHH for me.

AS57

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Can't say I would begrudge him it. It certainly wouldn't be best for business and he is so far past his best he can't even see it in the distance BUT I have also been a Taker and Kane mark so I'd cheer if he picked up the win

mickrude

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I would turn off my tv forever.

BigBear

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I am more against it than for it myself, I wouldn't be interested in a Kane title run at this moment in time. He is far past his best (which came in his first 4 years imo) but he has always been a solid performer and I do feel for him that he has never had that defining run.

Kane seems like the kind of guy who is happy to contribute by putting on solid matches and putting over young talent. By all accounts he is an intelligent guy, so will probably have a healthy bank balance from doing so. I'd imagine he earns into 7 figures per year, perhaps an Ed could confirm?

I think he will come out as a monster again, be made to look really strong in the run up to a potential title match against Bryan then Bryan will win, strengthening his run in the process.

AS57

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Anything you wouldn't turn off for big bear get a grip it's an entertainment channel ffs I'll turn off if:

Cena wins
Rock wins
Kane wins
Punk doesn't come back
Fruity pebbles stop going on sale

You must have a great number of shares in Kleenex your always needing to dry your eyes no one cares if you turn off forever one person doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things

Jamie

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You evidently care with such a heated response. Don't like my posts don't read them then it is as simple as that. I like when Rock wins, I am a fan of his also I was one of the ones that said I was happy Punk left so that is two o your points gone right there. Bye bye

BigBear

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I didn't want Bryan as champion, I didn't even want him to beat HHH. The whole underdog thing is getting very tired.
While Orton was off his game a little, he was a much better champion. {Ed007's Note - I've got to agree with you COYS, I would rather have seen HHH in and move to the Championship match and if HHH isn't winning I'll take an Orton win all day long, I just can't get into the Bryan thing at all.}

COYS

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Agree with big bear.

the kane angle shows that the wwe is back to business. they've give us the mania moment and now they will go back to burying him like the punk reign. kane is not relevant.

albo

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I am not saying I love the Daniel Bryan character or the underdog thing I just like watching the guy perform and that is more than enough for me, I also find him likeable as a person. In terms of character I much prefer Bray Wyatt but as I have always said if someone can go in and put on a quality match I don't need a character that is just a bonus.

BigBear

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I didn't really address the Kane thing. At this point the whole thing with Kane is destroyed for me. When that fire hit and he appeared you knew someone was getting choke slammed now I expect him to come down and start hugging people or giving them a performance review. How am I supposed to buy into the devils favourite demon when he has been hugging dudes and arguing in cafes. I get they need to keep his character fresh but the second you have him hugging another grown man constantly the aura if evil is peeled away. That is why I would hate for him to win the titles.

BigBear

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17 Apr 2014 11:53:42
Hearing it on the grapevine The Ascension will be showing up on RAW very soon.

Rated RKO

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Would be Hella awesome

Green lantern

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16 Apr 2014 22:16:13
Very pi***d off with some sites reporting that taker has died totally untrue it's horrid what people put on websites don't think they would like it if I reported their hero and icon had died these trolls are totally sick persons

Call

{Ed008's Note - Which sites?

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These stories come up every year about him - a quick google search shows stories going back to Jan 2010 of hoaxes saying he has died.

The fact he goes away from the limelight make him an easy target for people to drum up stories about him.

Don't they realise he's already the dead man?!

mickrude

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Never seen that on any site but that's pure sick bad taste man

Illbill360

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Undertaker found dead

www.empiresports.co/wwe-legend-the-undertaker-found-dead-in-texas-home/

This one I think ed

Call {Ed007's Note - Read the article Call, it's obviously a fake but that doesn't excuse the pond-life who came up with, and published, the article. I actually read it the other day and never even mentioned it to Ed008.}

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16 Apr 2014 21:14:30
Listening to Bruce Blitz RAW review and someone brought up an excellent point, why don't WWE instead of just waiting til someone dies do a tribute show while these legends are alive and let them be there and know just how much they meant to the business. Even just do 4-5 a year that works out one every 3 months or so.

BigBear

{Ed008's Note - Good point! Like they've done Bret Hart appreciation night and Shawn Michaels aswell.. Does that count? You gotta remember that Ultimate Warrior wasn't on good terms until what January?

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Yeah basically along those lines like an appreciation/tribute night just to let these guys know that get are still appreciated and let the fans and superstars thank them for paving the way. Even just produce more of those video packages that they do and maybe honour a few people on the same night.

BigBear

{Ed008's Note - Whoever enters the Hall of Fame that year should be entitled to their own appreciation night? Preferably infront of their hometown crowd..

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Instead of annoying commercials they should show classic matches featuring legends. I know that they get their money from advertising and exploiting kids so will never happen, so how about a 1500 calorie chocolate bar advertisement for the kids instead.
Scouse_Pride

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Except Mr. T, Donald Trump etc ED008

I pity the fool that does a Mr T. appreciation night. {Ed008's Note - Yeah forget the celebrity's just the wrestlers.

mickrude

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What happened to from the vault on smackdown, I used to enjoy watching classic matches. They should stop replaying matches from Mondays Raw and start showing more classic matches. They have a seperate program now called from the vault but I've only ever seen 2 matches on it and they are both from 2011 so it's not really a past classic

RVD1997

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16 Apr 2014 20:54:15
I fear that Bryan is about to get the CM Punk treatment and become a mid card champion. I see the Evolution vs Shield match being the main event of ER.

BigBear

{Ed008's Note - To be fair Evolution vs The Shield is worthy of Main-Eventing the PPV Bryan defending his Title most likely against Kane for me should be the match before..

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I agree Shield vs Evolution is some match but I am thinking more about the overall direction the company is taking. I wonder if WWE still don't think Bryan can can be the top guy. For me with how red hot Bryan is he should be the main event of most PPV's as long as he is champion.

BigBear

{Ed008's Note - It's a similar situation to Punk with that i don't see Bryan main-eventing a PPV for at least 2-3 months if thats the case..

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No the title will always main event.

JEPW

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JEPW do you not remember Cena vs Laurinitis being in the main event? During that amazing Punk run as champ where he never main evented unless he was facing Cena or Rock.


BigBear

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On a side note I only found out that Lauronitis is the brother of Animal from L. O. D. recently

This is probably common knowledge amongst you coniseurs but made me do a double take!

mickrude

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16 Apr 2014 20:16:06
Just been watching Raw and found the Warrior tribute touching. A few wrestlers really seemed upset which was nice to see. Also, for all of his many faults, HHH was actually leading the Warrior chants.

On a side note about HHH I actually think he is coming good on what he often preaches, doing what is best for business. Putting. Bryan over clean and then having Bryan win at Mania was best for business. They also seem to be pushing quite a few of the crowd favourites so here's hoping that the likes of Cesaro, BNB and D Bryan can gain great success so that other fan favourites get a push over the next year or so.

People I would like to be pushed are:

Ziggler (but I think he has burnt his bridges)
Cody Rhodes
BNB getting a full push
Usos getting pushed strong as they are entertaining

Also want The Shield, Wyatt's and Evolution to be pushed as stables looking for domination within WWE

Who do you guys think should be pushed?

TeamBringIt

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Big Bear would like Cena to have a huge push. off a cliff

{Ed008's Note - Lmao!

mickrude

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I hate how much he gets away with breaking kayfabe. Just not professional.

BigBear

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16 Apr 2014 18:21:49
I know I'm probably going to get blasted for this but why is everyone against cena u keep on going on that he didn't put over bray wyatt but then I think that's the right thing to do because if he won first time that would catapult him straight up to being like the rocks level ( as cena could not beat him first time but wyatt beat him first time. ) I think it would of been way to fast just like what happend to the miz I agree wyatt does need to win at extreme rules and it doesn't have to be clean over if he personally pins cena 1, 2, 3 then it goes down in the record books that wyatt def cena and people go on about him not putting people over well if he does that all the time people are going to have to start putting him over so he don't fall down the pecking order a lot and people will start winging again everyone looks at the bad of cena but at least he turns up every week for the past 12 yeah his in ring moves are predictable but so is randy ortons his character is not that good but nor is ortons or Batistas he would probably love playing the heel role again but he can't make that choice it is creative and it's not cena fault that kids have grown to him
Rant over

{Ed008's Note - His character is for the kids though?

Wizzle Wules

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I know but what I'm trying to say is how much of what people are wining about cena actually cena fault as I said if he was allowed to play the heel role he probably would love it everyone goes on about cena where they should be having a go at creative (Vince or hh) like they do with everything else but when it comes to cena oh no we will just put the whole blame on cena

Wizzle Wules

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I nominate this for worst post of the week for the simple fact it makes little to no sense.

BigBear

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What I'm saying everyone particularly u that blame cena for his character but he does not chose to be a heel or a face its creative who chooses that and I know his in ring matches are predictable but so is orton and is character is a bit bad but at least he's not trying to be a heel and fail at it big time (orton )

Wizzle Wules

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Anyone who has been on top for as long as Cena has been definitely has a good bit of character control. HE chose to bury Nexus and Wade Barrett so how many more times do you think he has done something like that?

Yes Orton is stale right now but I have also witnessed him lose cleanly many times where Cena has not lost a match without an excuse since Batista about 4 years ago. There is no defending him and I get that he sells to kids but there is no need for him to essentially never lose a match without an excuse. Your argument about Bray not beating him first time also makes no sense because if we are going to go by that then Cena will never lose another match ever again if it is the first time he is facing that competitor. Every superstar before Cena done the right thing and passed the ball on to the next guy to run with it but he has just buried everyone and is definitely the worst face of a wrestling company of all time.

BigBear

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What I'm tying to say is if bray def him on the big stage that would move him so far up the wwe that it might of been too quick and then they won't know what to do with him because they moved him up that fast and no one want him to fall down a lot examples are miz and ryback so yes he does have to win at ER
And I'm not a cena fan by any means any one he goes against I cheer for them I just think what u and other people blame him for is not solely his fault

Wizzle Wules

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Cena has a say behind the scenes, it's him along with creative who decide if he is going to put someone over or not. I feel Cena has more say behind the scenes than we realise.
End of the day Cena is a complete tosspot and WWE was better off when he was out injured.

Rated RKO

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Cena is so insecure it is unbelievable, he knows he is garbage and that is why he does not want anyone getting a sniff. Look at Jericho for example he openly stated that he likes putting guys over if he sees something in them whereas that muppet just wants to bury everyone. I constantly go back to this but listen to Jericho and Edge talking about how they wanted nexus and Barrett to go over but Cena wanted his way they old him he was wrong but he did it anyway and buried Nexus. The clip is on YouTube if you search something like Jericho and Edge shoot on Cena.

BigBear

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I remember Tensai beating Cena clean on Raw lol

Ed023

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When exactly did this match happen? I found two tensai vs Cena matches on YT, Cena won one and in the other was attacked by tensais manager, Otunga interfered twice, Tensai used the green mist and if you listen to the commentators they spend the full match talking about how Cenas head isn't in the game because of Rock, Lesnar and his world falling apart blah blah blah. So no clean losses there. Unless I have missed this match which is very possible as round about then I stopped watching RAW because it was terrible. If you could provide a video of this clean loss it would be much appreciated.

BigBear

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Green mist wasn't illegal though but it was probably a near clean loss for someone like Cena.

Ed023

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2 interferences though.

BigBear

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Agree with big bear trying to think last time cena lost cleanly without any injuries or interferences can't remember but did he lose to Kane at royal rumble in 2012 or something that is the last clean lose I think happened

Call

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They both got counted out Call then Kane beat Cena up with a chair backstage the Kane took Ryder out to the ring in the wheelchair, tombstoned him Cena ran back out and Kane chokeslammed him and just left.

BigBear

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Wow thanks BigBear I didn't know about nexus and when u mentioned some of that stuff wow he is so self centered I guess kind of like his wife surprised she isn't divas champ why hasn't he suggested that to creative

Wizzle Wules

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Thanks big bear just looked that match up with the nexus they were the best thing happening at that point much like the Wyatt's are now I can see wyatt defeating cena at extreme rules via a distraction from Harper and Rowan possibly by entering the cage then next night on raw cena will do his nexus talk " one by one I will take you down" and knowing cena having a role in creative that will be the end of the Wyatt's just think from the original nexus in that 7 on 7 match really barrett is the only who getting a push ship Sheffield aka rybotch got a bit of a push. But think about the rest slater in comedy group, Gabriel jobbing on superstars, otunga haven't seen him wrestle in ages, tarver have no idea what has happened to him and young who is out for 4-6 months and still will be jobbing when he returns
He is the modern day HHH digging good superstars in to the ground once you've lost to cena you lose to everybody

Call

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From what I have heard the Bella Cena is going out with is an ego maniac as well. I heard she said in an interview that she would beat Ronda Rousey in a fight while her sister who comes across as the more humble and down to earth of the two was like hell naw I wouldn't fight her.

If you don't know who Ronda Rousey is then google her, she would destroy any WWE diva. She would probably beat me to a pulp.

BigBear

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16 Apr 2014 18:17:50
So Kane is going back to be the big red machine.

Happy with this?

{Ed008's Note - Personally I want to see this Kane back... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyKPptq5ts0

mickrude

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Not really bothered, they have ruined all credibility he had when they had him hugging D Bryan. Same with big slow when he appeared wearing a nappy.

BigBear

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What no one wants to see Issac Yankem I am shocked

Jim

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I would be happier if it hadn't been promoted and he had just come out with the mask on.

L. O. D

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16 Apr 2014 18:00:22
Just got home from holiday posted a couple of times but 3G signal wasn't very good where I stayed so I have been away for two weeks managed to watch wm30 overall thought it was good upset that streak had to end to a part timer but happy that Bryan won shame cena beat wyatt wanted wyatt to win on biggest stage so he would be pushed well, night after wm was great shield a huge face turn then 24 hours after watching raw got the sad breaking news of warriors death sad to see his wife and daughters so happy at wm just for him to go no long after. Thought cesaro winning the Andre giant battle royal was the right decision though don't think he should win the ic belt push him more and let him win at money in the bank for the briefcase. Seems as though it will be Bryan vs Kane at extreme rules for the title after raw on Monday. Thought the tribute for warrior was great on raw lovely ten bell salute to a legend and a great saw Natalya and Rhodes crying, however I didn't see Batista at that time. Shield vs evolution hopefully for extreme rules hoping shield win however do love evolution entrance music though. Can't think of anything else apart from this :

RIP WARRIOR

Call

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16 Apr 2014 11:35:38
Just been thinking I kind if feel sorry for the people coming up from nxt because if people like Ziggler, sheamus and del rio are just jobbing how is people like Bo Dallas going to be any different I know the shield and the wyatts having done really well but they came up as a unit even big e Langston was jobbing with dolph then they decided to give him a ic run which he had a bit of momentum but recently u might as well take that belt away from him and at the moment Rusev is the latest to come up and I know it's early but he has faced xavier woods and then probably r truth next Monday and I'm sorry to say but it kind of feels like tensai when he first came back there is so much talent in wwe at the moment who is Jobbing e.g kofi, truth, miz, Christian, fandango and maybe even zack Ryder then u have just got superstars who don't have that much talent and wwe don't know what to do with them e.g 3mb, sin cara, Darren young, titus o'neil, Alex Riley, brodus clay and tensai so for their own sake and to free up the roster a bit release them
I also still think that there should be two separate rosters because when they said it was draft night that was a night I always looked forward too with some surprises

Wizzle Wules

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There is no reason to have someone fight on Raw, Smackdown, and Main Event.

They absolutely flood the market and its easy to get bored with anyone because they are on telly so much.

They seem incapable of pushing more than 3 or 4 feuds at once and there are hours and hours of TV to fill.

Bessex

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16 Apr 2014 08:50:27
Just a thought if u could have 3 people to return to wwe (from only the past 5 years) for a reasonable amount of time e.g 3 years who would it be and why my 3 would be

1 Jeff hardy because wwe no longer has that I will do anything to impress the crowd and also no one with that kind of charisma

2 John Morrison simply because I think he was not used right by the wwe I think he could of gone a lot further and possible at the time have a long run as the whc champ and I would of even said wwe champ I know he had 2 or maybe 3 matches for it but it never really came of much

3 MVP I think he is in tna now but I think he should come back not as a top star straight away but maybe be a heel type MVP and get back as us champ and get back some prestige

Just missing out was Chris masters, shelton Benjamin and cm punk ( because he only left recently and I can't see him returning anytime soon ) {Ed008's Note - Jeff Hardy for a IC Title run, John Morrison to reunite with The Miz and become a Tag Team and Shelton Benjamin find an American become a Tag Team or run with IC-US Title run

Wizzle Wules

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1. Shelton Benjamin - Bring him back as a Zeb Coulter guy once Swagger fails to take down Cesaro. Just imagine Cesaro v Shelton matches with Zeb & Heyman involved.

2. Elijah Burke - Thought this guy was the total package in the early wwecw days but like Drew he got that cursed vote of confidence from Vince. He had a great move set & was a great speaker too. though he did have 1 or 2 stinkers vs Punk.

3. Kurt Angle - Enough said

Woody

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Just a few I'd like to see back in wwe

Jeff Hardy
Bully Ray
Shelton Benjamin
John Morrison
CM Punk
Edge (yes I know he's injured)

Some i'd like to see in wwe

Bad influence
Austin aires
Bobby Roode and James storm as a team again
Motor City machine Guns as a team

Yeahhhhhhhhwhoooooo

Johnson Barracks

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1. Ric Flair just because Evolution has now reunited.

2. Chris Jericho, I'd like him to come back and feud with Cesaro, maybe have the IC title involved.

3. Jeff Hardy. I'd like to see how him and Rollins would get on in a feud.

Ed023

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Stone Cold, if only for a few more PPV matches.

Ken Anderson, because he really seemed like a natural successor to SCSA, I haven't seen what TNA have done with him so I'm not influenced with that.

The Dudley Boyz, to come back feud with the Uso's.

Bessex

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I'm going to do 4 =)

Jeff and Matt Hardy, make the tag team division good again.

Jericho

CM Punk

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Punker

Shelton

Chris Hero/Kassuis Ohno

Jim

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Angle

Morrison - but he hasn't got any charisma and will be mid card

Benjamin - same reasons as above

albo

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16 Apr 2014 00:03:17
Just seen that Cena "promo" again from RAW and I am possibly the most annoyed I have been with him. He is one of the worst all rounders in that company and that includes the likes of 3MB and Rybotch. He has zero charisma, zero psychology, zero comedy value and is just all round terrible. Last week the Lasting image of Cena was him crawling away from the ring looking scared but all of a of a sudden this week he is a "comedian" again, that makes no sense whatsoever and a bad case of food poisoning is funnier than him. Nothing has changed at all in this company and I don't care if Bryan is champ and what not if Cena wins at ER I am done, this company took 2 steps forward with WM and the following RAW then Monday night they took about 12 back because they are stupid, plain and simple and I don't care anymore if you have a kid who is a Cena fan then you have failed them or if you yourself are a Cena fan then you are probably entertained by jangling keys and other shiny objects and I would rather you found an island somewhere where you and the rest of the Cena fans can sit and listen to his untalented ramblings all day without bothering those of us who enjoy something a bit more intellectual and grown up. I would usually of had a lot more swear words in there but I told Ed that I would try and stop that.

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Completely agree. They actually partly made up for the error in putting Cena over at WM last week by having him look scared and anxious about Wyatt. So this week he comes out and makes Wyatt out to nothing special, or significant. He is just someone Cena can beat while having fun, because if Cena gets serious then Wyatt has no chance **** OFF, I hate the Cena character more than any in the history of the business, he is one dimensional, limited in the ring, zero psychology and worst of all is deliberately targeted at children to sell merchandise. He has been stale for at least 10 years, but he has new t-shirt out so let's just make more money of him. PUSH REAL TALENT

Popa-Lazarou

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Wow. Good rant BB and I agree with a lot of what you say.
As I have said before with regard to Cena the magic word is MERCHANDISE. He shifts so much to kids who in turn ask their parents to take them to promotions and shows. Hence the few but extreemly high pitched 'let's go Cena' squeals that can be heard.
The WWE is dithering where it wants to go with the Cena, Fandango, Rey characters for the under 11s and the Shield, Evolution, Wyatts, Henrys etc for the more serious fans. Trouble is that these wrestlers are tied by the same PG rubbish that Cena revels in with his so patently false respect, loyalty hustle rants and are not allowed to let rip like I am sure they would want to.
Would love to see someone like Lesnar or Cesaro put Cena in his place.

COYS

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I agree with all of this, but as much as it pains me you're all missing the obvious truth. WWE is for kids, until they remove the PG situation and go back to trying to make it look real then there will always be room for Santinos, Cenas, and 3MB.

Bessex

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I understand it Bessex but this is the way it is. The kids WWE have hooked will not stop watching, that money will pretty much always be there so the target therefor is to get the money of he adults that are not stupid enough to buy into the Cena garbage so what do you do, you build guys like the Wyatts and the Shield that have the smarter people interested and then you have there money as well. WWE however do this then feed those acts to Cena and lose those that were fans of those guys.

How many talents do you think Cena has basically killed momentum for and they have went right downhill. WWE has left more money on the table because of Cena than he has made them, there has not been a long term face of a company that has turned more people away from wrestling than he has. I still hope for an injury that ends his career and I don't feel bad at all for wishing that because he has killed of so many guys chances of being big time players.

BigBear

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I know what you mean, but your looking at it from your point of view, if you think of it from their point of view it could be seen very differently.

They are not building stars for the stars, they are building them to be fed to about 4 top guys.

The adults will pay to see something on the card, there are probably a section of the audience who only tune in to see the divas.

That's why they try and spread so much of it about.

My only criticism of your view is that you fixate on Cena, rather than enjoying the bits you do like. Just don't worry about it and speed through.

Bessex

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The thing is Bessex the second I start enjoying something they are doing they feed them to Cena, in my opinion the Wyatts are the best thing in years but they are currently being fed to this clown and history states once that happens you are pretty much done.

BigBear

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All joking apart, what needs to happen to make the business what it needs to be is cena to either wise up and do what's right or lesnar hurt him for real. can u imagine cena screaming and not being heard from for 12 months? bliss and would be a huge draw when he returns

albo

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At this point Albo mate I am all for Lesnar beating him to a pulp. I am well aware he will not go away but I can put up with him as long as he isn't killing off other talent. I hope that the Wyatts are not dropped down the card after Cena has done his hack job on them. Bray is too talented as is Harper. I really think that in Reigns and Wyatt you have the two future top face and top heel of the company if you book them right.

BigBear

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15 Apr 2014 19:08:43
After all the hype of Monday Night Raw I think PRF is best to do on Tuesdays.
Here's the 3 wrestlers
Cody Rhodes
Dolph Ziggler
Wade Barrett
It's more interesting to read if you mention how you would PUSH them, how would you REPACKAGE them? and lastly who would you fire.

ED008

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Obvious that Barrett is up for a big push - JBL is using the 'I love this guy' at every opportunity just like he did with Sheamus when he was being pushed. I think he will win the Intercontimental tournament.
Dolph seems to be out of favour and has lost his way, which is a real shame. Hard to see where he fits in at the moment. I think a short break would do him the world of good and see him come back as an Edge-like heel.
Never been a fan of Rhodes. He was at his best with Sandow but Sandow also looks like he has lost management support and is being used like Del Rio to push one last RVD campaign. Never really liked RVD either. Time for Rhodes to move on.

COYS

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I would push Rhodes with a big angle leading to Goldust retiring. and cody being a heel turning on his brother and dad.

Repackage Ziggler. Have him as a bit like the million dollar man. His cocky attitude and lots of money making him a heel.

Sack Barret as he's good but not as good. as the other two and being Scottish the whole appeal he has to a lot of people on here is how I feel for Drew McIntyre haha

spoc

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Push Ziggler as he is one of the best workers in the company and is still over despite the attempts at burying him.

Repackage Rhodes, as what I will need to have a little think but the guy is supremely talented and should still be upper card.

Fire Barrett, he was at his best when he first appeared on the scene then a certain muppet buried his push. He has been repackaged too many times now and has failed to get over with each one.

BigBear

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Definatly push ziggler he is so over because he has got everything u want in a wrestler theme, looks and can damn right pull it off in the ring

Repackage Cody to what he used to be when he had that brilliant ic run

Fire Barrett I agree with BigBear he has been repackaged to many times and I thing his in ring name now is horrendous Bad News Barret are u having a joke yeah it was fine when he was doing that stupid but sometimes funny gimmick to get back on tv but his in ring name should of stayed Wade Barret

Wizzle Wules

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Push Barrett - i'm liking the Bad News Gimmick and think he could have a good run in this tournament for the IC belt.

Re-package Ziggler - I'd have him be a cocky ladies man coming out with a different diva every couple of weeks and using them to distract his opponents to get the win. Think he would work much better as a heel character.

Fire Rhodes - he seems to have lost all momentum at the moment and I can't/don't get excited about him wrestling. He could be re-packaged but Ziggler deserves it more

mickrude

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Push Barrett, always liked him, his new gimmick is creeping up.

Repackage Ziggler as a heel, showing off is what he does best and its a naturally heel gimmick.

Sack Rhodes, not that I don't like him, but he hasn't been great for me since he was dashing, then in the mask.

Bessex

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Fire barrett - I think his gimmick could be huge if done correctly but it won't so he will be back to jobbing soon.
repackage ziggler - not a face, get him as head of a stable and go from there
push Rhodes - show got his spot when hhh fired him and he got lumbered with his brother. cody could have been a player now.

albo

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15 Apr 2014 13:51:16
just watched raw.
well one of my favourite groups from the past are going to face the best thing in wwe today.
i really like the shield and loved evolution. I really don't know how I would like this one to work out.
eds and regulars how do you's see this going?

{Ed008's Note - It's a dream match but could have been set for Summerslam or Wrestlemania? Evolution my favourite stable of all time versus the best thing in WWE atm i could see 2 or 3 matches and i could also see Evolution getting Titles along with this mini feud they have possibly Tag Titles and WWE World Championship? I think The Shield have to come out on top for me but i want to see Ric Flair back giving intrustions and shouting Woooo!

gooner mark

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I think one of the Shield could go over big time if he became the newest member of Evolution at some point during a long feud.

The clue is in the name, Evolution should have an up and comer in its ranks.

Bessex

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15 Apr 2014 10:24:02
Well Cena is a d1ck as usual and WWE are messing up the Wyatt thing by putting them in with this person, I was quite enjoying RAW until he came out. Society is doomed if this is what kids find "cool" these days.

BigBear

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Have to agree with you BB.

Rated RKO

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Bessex I thought I would ask you this, after seeing RAW do you still think Cena is elevating Wyatt or intentionally trying to cut the legs out from underneath him? Bray doing an awesome job as usual and Cena comes out and no sells a guy who 3 weeks ago he was supposed to be scared of? Makes real sense that, my 7 and 8 year old nieces could write stories better than that.

BigBear

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Like Rated RKO, I'm right with you.

COYS

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Cena should be sacked. Ok he earns big money with merchandise but just think how much money he has lost the Wwe in burying people? These stars who's pushes he killed due to his crappy childlike promos, his inability to sell a hold and simple wrestling things like not smiling for hectors sake. I said it a while ago but will say it again. Can you imagine cena wrestling when it was territories? Can you imagine him smiling at Harley race, terry funk, brody etc? The man has no grasp of the basics that they teach you in training. Vince is just as to blame for letting it happen. How come the likes of Austin, edge etc have to retire and we are stuck with this clown?

Albo

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I thought the Raw promo was garbage, but I think the feud is pretty enjoyable.

Remember 90% of the paying audience as a rule want to see the good guys win in the end. Bray getting over is a side effect of a good story.

Its definitely elevating him.

Bessex

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Bessex not when it is Cena it's more like 60-70% want to see him lose. There has never been a wrestler protected as much as he has because he is an insecure muppet. I hate when people say "well he is loved by the kids" and use that as an excuse yes he is loved by the kids BECAUSE THEY BOOKED HIM THAT WAY not because he is talented or has that natural ability to draw people in but because they booked him to be this unstoppable robot. 100% guaranteed Rey Meysterio could sell more merch than Cena does if he was booked with half as much bias as they do Cena. WWE leaves more money on the table because of him than they take off it, I have done work in marketing when I was younger and one of the first things I was taught was KIDS ARE THE EASY SELL if Cena were to lose matches they will still buy into his crap if you do it right. Adults are the ones you need to work on and WWE have done not too bad recently with the shield and the Wyatts but as soon as they start to get people hooked they roll out that fruity muppet to take them down. Surely a company like WWE can come up with a way to keep kids buying Cenas rubbish merch and not destroy every bit of talent he gets near.

BigBear

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15 Apr 2014 07:19:00
Can I just say once again Cena using juvenile humour really pissed me off. Bray Wyatt is not the type of character that a humourous promo works for, Cena only made him look weak by making out he wasn't taking him seriously and then warned that if he gets serious Wyatt doesn't stand a chance. Pathetic booking Cena is not the Rock, he can not cut a good, impactful promo using humour, he just comes across as a r******* man child. Wyatt HAS to go over clean at ER

Popa-Lazarou

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The Raw promo wasn't great. The editing heads on to pictures was pretty dumb.

I am enjoying the feud though.

Hoping to see Cena force a bit of fire from his belly to have to over turn the Wyatts.

Bessex

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15 Apr 2014 04:12:44
BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION!!

ED008

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I said they were reforming :P

Rated RKO

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3 great 3-man groups now out there. I do feel a bit sorry for 3MB as they will no doubt be dragged out for each of Evolution, The Shield & The Wyatts to batter in short time.

COYS

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I BOlieve

JEPW

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Surly Ric Flair can get another pay day out of this.

Bessex

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15 Apr 2014 01:09:19
Great tribute to the Ultimate Warrior also like the way their utilising the mid-card talent with this IC Tournament to determine Big E Langston's opponent to defend his Title against some really good matches made.

ED008

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Natayla and Cody looked quite upset too. both looked to be crying.

Rated RKO

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Really nice tribute to start the show. As always excellent video package, still can't get my head around the fact he was on Raw the day before, makes me think he knew his time was limited. Watched both WM and last weeks Raw back and maybe it's the benefit of hindsight but he did look to be out of breath, red faced generally not well. Gone too soon, RIP Warrior

Popa-Lazarou

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The IC tournament is ideal, they can have the average matches they have every week but they're given a little importance.

This is a fine midcard story that will carry us through to Extreme Rules.

Bessex

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14 Apr 2014 22:45:11
I watched Smackdown earlier & my god Cena's arse kissing to the crowd is beyond a joke now. Acting like he loved the crowd singing that he sucks along to his entrance.
Wouldnt surprise me one bit if he make him the main focal point in whatever tribute they give Warrior tonight.

Woody

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Big bear have you changed your name?

Green lantern

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They took Cena out of the top spot, they took him away from the title, and now his feud with the Wyatt's is still very watchable.

I am really enjoying his work at the minute, if only he did 6 months at this level every year.

Bessex

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14 Apr 2014 12:32:32
im trying to start a wwe dvd collection does anyone have any good tips? {Ed008's Note - CM Punk,Elimination Chamber best matches and The Ladder match Part 1

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Bret Hart, The best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be, is my personal fav. Great documentary and excellent matches too. I would also highly recommend both the CM Punk one and Legends of Mid South Wrestling

Popa-Lazarou {Ed007's Note - HHH - Thy Kingdom Come.}

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All the ones about the different promotions, like the rise and fall of WCW.

JEPW

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One night in Chyna?

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14 Apr 2014 13:52:40
Id really like to see somebody help out cena in a 3 on 2 match at extreme rules, I know Bryan was supposed to apparently but imagine how cool it would be to see somebody like Sting take away some of the spotlight from Cena
Thoughts? {Ed007's Note - Remember to sign your posts.}

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Pairing Cena with another big name isn't taking the spotlight away from him, they'll just be rubbing off the other guys popularity to get Cena over.

Woody

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Apparently they are already advertising Cena vs Bray in an Extreme Rules Match on the posters at the arena.

I don't think we want too many multiman tag matches, and we will surly be getting a Shield Evo 6 man tag.

Bessex

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If Cena doesn't put Bray over at ER then it is evident WWE are still set in there same stupid ways. And anyone claiming that Cena elevated him at mania is delusional. Want to elevate an up and comer? Let him pin you even if it is not clean. Bray Wyatt in less than a year has produced better work than Cena has in the last 12.

BigBear

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I believe its possible for Cena to keep Bray moving forward without having to lose, but I think its better for everyone if the feud is made to make Bray look strong.

I think Cena needs to sell the whole being torn between beating Bray and hurting him, and Bray needs to play up the idea that breaking Cena's Hustle Loyalty and Respect persona is more important to him than winning the match.

This feud is cleverer than just who wins and loses the match.

Bessex

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Ohh I get it Bessex it is essentially what the Joker does in the dark knight, corrupt the incorruptible. How about this but Cena loses because he sticks to his morals so then it makes the stakes even higher he has to chose between sticking to his code or get beaten badly. But no he has to stick to his morals and beat Bray it is just stupid booking.

BigBear

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The trouble is that Cena just shifts too much merchandise. He won't be allowed to beat Bray by betraying his image. Mind you, would love to see him suddenly do a 'dark Hogan' just to see the crowd reaction.

COYS

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Bray will go over at extreme rules no problem but he needs to go over strong. no run ins no cheap endings. Bray beats him down and gets the 1-2-3

Albo

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Bear isd spot on, Bray needs to win because Cena won't flex on HLR, and be left in such a way that when the next match comes up he has to break character.

I would love to see Cena disqualified for going steel chair crazy on Bray.

Then as Bray recovers he loves it, the way Mankind used to sell loving a beating.

Bessex

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Cage match! Bray ain't going over clean

Albo

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I don't think we are quite at the big blow off match yet, this will just be another step.

Bessex

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13 Apr 2014 23:24:38
If DDP isn't put in the hall of fame in the next year or two then the full thing is a joke. One of the greats and even if he was a complete jobber he deserves it just for his work with Jake and Hall. Come in WWE do the right thing.

Self High Five

BigBear

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I do think that Vince needs to have a look at inducting some more predominately WCW wrestlers.

His time in WWF/E wasn't exactly glorious but he deserves recognition for his time in WCW.

However there are still probably more deserving wrestlers still not in that should be done before DDP; Sting, Big Boss Man, Bam Bam Bigelow, Macho Man, Kevin Nash, Owen Hart, Davey Boy Smith to name a few in my opinion all deserve a spot before DDP gets the call

mickrude

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He definatly deserves a spot. Like BB said, even for the work on Jake & Hall alone is worthy of it. But his work also works wonders on current talents, take Goldust for example.

Woody

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The Hall Of Fame inducts so many people every year that it really is a bit of a joke already.

The fact someone like Randy Savage isn't in it but Mr T is in is pathetic.

Its not just for top tier talents or world class stars, they are letting who ever is willing to turn up and make a speech.

Looking forward to Bob Holly's induction, after all he did hang around for a decade.

Bessex

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The only name I disagree with mick is Nash, he is way down the list.

BigBear

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Its funny how people can view the same thing differently I can't see anyway in which DDP's career was more deserving of HOF fame recognition over Kevin Nash's.

I am sure they will both end up in there, but if I had to pick I would say Nash over Page.

Its very charitable to say DDP's work with Jake and Razor should get him the nod, but its not really a wrestling issue is it.

Bessex

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Nash champion in both WWF and WCW, part of the biggest invasion story ever, one third of the original nWo. I'll admit I never rated his in-ring work but he is certainly above DDP in the grand scheme of things

mickrude

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Nash also one of the worst bookers in history and partly responsible for the death of WCW. DDP has saved two of the greats an a lot of current stars use DDP yoga. DDP was a far better worker than Nash and was also better on the mic. He was massively mistreated in WWE as were a lot of the WCW guys.

DDP is live, SELF HIGH FIVE.

BigBear

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Let me get this straight Big Bear you want to induct DDP because a lot of WWE stars do his yoga? Yes his work with Hall and Roberts were commendable but I could name 50 people who are more deserving than DDP

Albo

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Well not just because of that but because he was a quality performer as well, better than a lot of guys that are in the hall of fame right now, the fact that he succeeded in saving the lives of two hall of famers when all the others had pretty much failed to do so and is helping extend the careers of some guys is just bonus. Go on name your 50 then Albo, this should be interesting.

BigBear

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I respect DDP's work with Razor and Jake, but its not like he is doing it for free.

He has the whole accountability crib website, its always promoting his yoga plan, and he is making a documentary about the recovery process.

I have heard people say DDP is very generous and always has been, but he is making a new career out of it as well.

Bessex

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Ok big bear I will obviously be shot at as there is a lot of guys. I will base it on people who I feel deserve the induction on their overall career and impact on the business not just title reigns etc.

Savage, Owen, dynamite kid, bulldog, hhh, jericho, mysterio, Kane, taker, dudleys, Christian, hardy boys, rick rude, demolition, Paul Heyman, Brock lesnar, Nash, bam bam, Sid, vader, pillman, shamrock, Benoit, big show, Eddie Gilbert, von erichs/Kerry, the rock, Lou thez, angle, free birds, Goldust, sheep headers/bushwackers, the fabulous ones, the rock and roll express, cornette, slick, the steiners, Luna, terry funk, rvd, bruiser brody, stan Hansen, Goldberg, 123. Kid, rick Martel, sting, bobby eaton, Adrian street, sabu

Albo

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Some very good shouts. Don't agree with them all being ahead of DDP but a bloody good effort nonetheless!

mickrude

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I will give credit where it is due I didn't think you would pull up as many names but you did. Like Mick I don't agree with some but bravo for the attempt.

BigBear {Ed007's Note - Albo, the Von Erichs were inducted into the HoF in 2009, Terry Funk was inducted along with Dory Funk Jnr in the same year. I'm not dissing you but I knew the Von Erichs had been and was checking it out when I seen the Funks in there as well.}

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They might as well chuck them all in, Drew Carey is in there isn't he? I have had a bigger influence on the business than him. {Ed007's Note - Yep, Carey is in it, Mike Tyson, Pete Rose, William "The Refrigerator" Perry, Bob Uecker and Donald Trump all make it a bit of a joke imo Bessex. I would also seriously question whether people like Mr T should be in it before some of the guys Albo listed.}

Bessex

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They should have 2 or 3 entries per year, and it should be a legend from 80's or 90's, a recently retired hero, and a guy who's whole career makes him worthy.

An example would be Hogan, Stone Cold, and The Godfather.

Vintage, Recent, and recognise the effort of a guy that didn't really make to the top, but was there, working hard. {Ed007's Note - I'd agree with you on all of that plus if someone connected to wrestling passes away it should be looked at inducting them. It's never going to happen and it saddens me, although I can see the point, that Chris Benoit will never be inducted to the HoF or be given any recognition for all his wrestling work across the globe.
There is a Professional Wrestling HoF & Museum in New York that is totally wrestling orientated rather than having people like Donald Trump in it.}

Bessex

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13 Apr 2014 19:00:25
Evening fans!

Watched raw again today and I have to say the crowd were amazing. That's how every week should be on raw! I know a lot of them were English due to the flags and footie shirts which is awesome! When they were singing got the whole world in our hands and then chanting hounds of justice was quality!

I am very excited for the ceasaro push! Do we know why he didn't have any music on smackdown? I would love to ceasaro vs Brock to see who definitely is Paul haymans guy.

Are there any more returns coming this year? Will CM punk ever return do you guys think?

Razor

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The Raw straight after a Wrestlemania is always one of the best and the crowds are always just a bit different,
The only reason Cesaro is now a Paul Hayman guy is that he will be appearing each week, unlike Lesnar, which will allow Hayman on each week. Hayman & Wyatt are streets beyond anyone else with their presenting skills.

COYS

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Cesaro should have been a Heyman guy last year, doesn't make sense now cesaro is pretty much a face.

Albo

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I think Vince just let Heyman pick who he wants to work with since with Brock off until Summerslam there is no reason to have Heyman on TV.

He should build a small stable.

Bessex

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I agree with you he should make a stable. Hetman said a line on raw in his promo last week about "turning the page" then Paige debuted later that night and then on smack down cena referred to Paige as turning the page again. Which leaves me hoping that was hey man hinting at a new member hopefully.
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12 Apr 2014 19:59:53
Having finally gone through the whole of wrestlemania (just bought a new house - no t'internet until yesterday) have to say as a whole was a very good event.

However the biggest disappointment for me was Michael Cole, JBL and Jerry Lawler. If they can't get excited for matches how the hell is the viewer meant to?

Just imagine what JR would have made of Taker losing to Lesnar, to Bryan overcoming the odds, even to Wyatt conducting the crowd.

Time for a "reality" check - those three need shaking up and some new blood brought in to help captivate the audience again - or am I being too harsh?

mickrude

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I was watching it for the second time with my father and I was saying, "I wonder what JR would have said. "

JEPW

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Get Regal in there and if Paul Heyman wasn't managing then him as well they two would be golden.

BigBear

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Yup Regal should be brought in even Dusty or Joey Styles would better than what they have now

Jim

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You don't even need Cole. All you need is a recording of him and buttons to push that say 'not this way', 'classic Orton', 'mixed reception for Cena'. 'you can ffel the electricity' etc etc etc

COYS

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Still can't believe how the say Vince is a perfectionist everything has to be right etc but for some reason he has insisted on Cole being the main commentator when anybody can't see he has never been up to the task. He ruined some of the special moments at Mania by his lack of timing etc.

Bill

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According to Jim Ross JBL, Cole and Lawler are all heavily produced and are effectively only saying what they are being told to via their headsets. It would be interesting to know what they would be like if left to their own devices.

L. O. D

{Ed008's Note - It's one of the reasons Jim Ross isn't a commentator anymore he would call the match in the ring whilst Cole would heavily promote products/apps whilst a match is ongoing that shouldn't be happening fans get invested into a match when JR is commentating as he makes you feel the match ongoing is a huge he could make a jobbing match sound like pure dominance with the passion he brings..

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Lawler should have Been sacked years ago. Jbl used to be good and is woeful.

Albo

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Get Jim Cornette in is what I say!

JEPW

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That will never happen

Ryan!!!!

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Just get vince out of the headsets! Foley was brilliant. Insightful. Humorous, but he couldn't take vince


Albo

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It's the fact that the best commentator they have is on there developmental programme, doesn't make sense. Regal can call matches and you can have some muppet like cole to try and sell the app and stuff. You can tell that they are just being fed lines especially when. RoboD!ck is in the ring, he is the only face that JBL doesn't try the heel announcer stuff with. Every face that comes out he slanders then Cena comes out all of a sudden "you have to respect Cena he is one of the greats". News flash the fans decide who the greats are not WWE. Cena is not even in the top 20 best performers in the company right now.

BigBear

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I think the broadcast would be helped if they had a different broadcast team for Smackdown and then blended the two for PPV.

I like the 3 man teams, of a proper play by play, a colour commentator, and an old veteran telling stories.

Cole, Regal, JBL would be a fine main team.

Bessex

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12 Apr 2014 11:29:01
Just a thought what if cm punk did have that feud with triple hhh would who ever won enter the championship match later that night and who would it of been if it did happen and would of Batista left wrestlemania being the wwe world heavyweight champion?

Wizzle Wules

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I think no, Punk would of been in his match with HHH. Batista would of beat Orton and Cena and Bryan would of faced the Wyatts in a 3 on 2 tag match.

BigBear

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I guess we will never know.

Bessex

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12 Apr 2014 10:54:30
So pleased to see Evolution back together again fighting with the Shield will be interesting to see how the hounds of justice cope with being in the ring with a real animal. I do hope this won't be the final feud for the shield before they slit up though as their brief encounters with the Wyatts were fantastic. Would be better if HHH gets more involved with the story but then who'd be left for Bryan and the title, please not Cena and they sure as hell can't put Bryan in the ring with Brock.

And a sad farewell to the legend the ultimate warrior.

always a red

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I would personally like to see cesaro being pushed for the championship match maybe brock.

AsianInvasion97

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