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09 Oct 2014 12:12:13
Reading rumours of a WrestleMania 31 match between Triple H & The Rock being teased on this week's SmackDown. I grew up watching those two legends & would personally love to see them go at it one more time. Their rivalry deserves a proper ending in a first singles match at a WM. So just for a bit of fun I was thinking about ways I would like to fantasy book that match.

Vince returns to TV to confront The Authority a month or so before WrestleMania, saying he doesn't like the direction of the product & wants to go back to running it his way. Triple H objects & challenges Vince to earn it, but says that since he's too old & past it, he'll need to find someone to fight him for it. Vince says ok and goes to leave, he then turns at the top of the stage & says he thought Triple H might say that, proving he's still a step ahead, so he prepared for it. Out comes The Rock. At 'Mania we get a 30 minute back & forth, physical match between the two. The Rock gains control towards the end by hitting a rock bottom and people's elbow on Triple H. This leads to The Authority (Kane & Rollins) getting involved & attacking Rock, with Rollins kerb stomping him on & Kane chokeslamming him through the announce table. John Cena then comes out & clears the area of The Authority before helping a groggy Rock back into the ring where HHH is still laid out. Just as Rock starts to approach HHH, Cena grabs him, turns him around, hoists him on his shoulders & lays him out with an AA before dragging HHH on top of Rock for the three count as Stephanie McMahon looks on with that sick smile on her face. Triple H wins, The Authority gain full control (kayfabe, no more acknowledgement of Vince having the final decision etc. ) of WWE & Cena turns heel in the process.

Not likely to happen granted as I doubt Cena will ever turn, but for me it would make great TV. I would also have Roman Reigns beat Brock for the Championship that night, solidifying him as the new face of WWE & that coinciding with Cena's heel turn. But if Cena wouldn't turn, I think the same story could work for Dean Ambrose, making the switch just when he'll be at his hottest as a babyface, much like they did with Rock in '98.

What do you all think?

1.) Cena in any capacity is a bad thing, give us Wyatt.

2.) Would it make more sense for Rusev to attack the rock?

3.) I think the WWE will look to put on their biggest possible match, which is Rock vs Brock for the title.

I think if HHH or The Rock were ever going to formally call it a day then facing each other in their last match would probably be the dream ticket.

Though I suspect HHH could still be pulling out matches Vince style in a decade.

02 Oct 2014 14:10:48
Where do people think John Cena will sit in years to come in terms of his legacy in WWE? Love him or hate him, he has been the top guy in the business for 10 years and will likely continue in that spot for some time yet. He has had a very, very long run on top and that deserves respect at the end of the day, imo. For me, there have been four "guys" in the modern era of wrestling (80's onwards), the four being Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock and John Cena. By that I mean top guys in the company who were the ones that people paid to see and who were the biggest draw for PPVs, merchandise etc at their given time. Perhaps you could throw in The Undertaker for longevity but he was never quite on the same level as those guys in terms of being a "superstar".

Do people agree and do you see him ever being considered in the same league as those guys when all is said and done? If not, what will be his legacy?

1.) 02 Oct 2014 15:13:09
Being the top guy for that long is the reason people hate him & can't respect him. And as for merch & ppv buyrates, we don't get a cut so why should we care. At the end of the day he's a horrendous wrestler, terrible actor & looks like a complete tool.
WWE may try to convince you he's in the other guys leagues but he never will be to the majority of fans.

2.) Cena deserves no respect, he did not get to where he is based on charisma, acting ability or wrestling ability he got to where he is because the WWE promotional juggernaut were pushing him to the moon.

Guys like Austin, Rock, Hogan and even guys like Batista have and still are transcending the WWE world because they are actually talented. Cena in my opinion is not in the top 100 of all time and I am sure there are much bigger wrestling fans than me who could name like 500 who are better tham him.

In terms of acting ability, in ring work, entertainment value and charisma. Ambrose, Rollins and Wyatt have surpassed Cenas full career already.

3.) Much as I hate to admit it, Cena will have a place in the WWE pantheon.
He has performed (to questionable levels) for week after week, always turning up, doing all the promotion and he has carried the company on his shoulders for the last 5 years. Part of this is his own fault as he seems to have ruined the careers of any number of wrestlers who could have shared the workload. (Watch out Ambrose).
He is not as talented as the Takers, Rocks, Austins of this world. I don't think he is as talented as Orton and HHH, but he has lived up to his contract with Vince and Vince has given him everything he wants in return.
Cena splits opinion right down the middle. Some love him and others (and I am one of them) cannot wait until he goes.
BUT his longevity alone means he will be remebered.
Austin was the master of the Attitude Era, Cena is the master of the Martel Era.

4.) At the end of the day I just cannot wait for Vince to dissapear forever, I wish no harm on him but he is ruining the entire product. Read the interview with that writer that got released and he, like others before him, spoke the truth about Vinces constant shooting down of ideas and micromanaging everything. A guy on one of Bruce Blitz shows who was an ex writer for WWE came on and was nice about Vince and said it was a good place to work but BB finally got it out of him and the guy confirmed that the creative team would give Vince ideas that moved away from Cena and he shot them down everytine.

WWE = We Wont Entertain.

5.) I respect the job Cena does a lot more than most on here, but there is no denying he is as stale as they come.

I remember the same things being levied at Hogan 15 years ago and in now in the history of the business he is almost forgiven.

Considered the godfather of modern wrestling, when in 95 he was the glass ceiling that kept squashing the new breed.

In the grand scheme I think Cena will be remembered for his good attributes over his poor.

6.) 03 Oct 2014 13:50:25
Cena is a big think because kids relate to him, that is why his merchandise sells, because kids believe in Hustle, Respect and Loyalty. the guy himself has no talent and knows that if he keeps this up he will keep the money coming in. once he is done, they will find another Cena.

but as realbigbear said Austin, The Rock, Hogan and all the rest all have talent and have used it well. But because Cena appeals to the kids he becomes the poster boy of WWE. We need the PG era to end so Cena can take a back seat and let the decent, the amazing and the outstanding talent take over.

7.) I think Cena's talent takes an unfair pasting, just saying he is crap and can't wrestle is unfair.

Sure he is not a great technical wrestler, and he doesn't sell well often, but he does a good job most of the time.

He is just stale, same stuff year on year.

8.) He has been on the top for 10+ years and has made no attempts to improve anything he does. Still hasn't tightened up that STF when even SCSA told him he needed to, his hip tosses and other filler moves look horrible, he attempts thing that he is not athletically capable of and powerbombs himself when attempting a hurricanrana. Then there is the complete no selling of everything and the smirking during promos. When you are top of the pile you should be elevating the other guys but instead Cena is so bad they need to use everyone else to try and get him over. Honestly I would rather have Rybitch as the top guy over Cena and I cannot stand him.

9.) Having grown up with Hogan as the poster boy I so don't see Cena as being that terrible. When Hogan no-sold he did it spectacularly - go watch his match against Undertaker and his complete no sell of the tombstone. Cena is a better all round athlete than Hogan but doesn't have the charisma. Cena is a poor mans Hogan basically

10.) Difference between Cena and Hogan is that no matter what we think of backstage politics Hogan does understand the business. He was getting boo'ed so he left for a while to 'focus' on acting. He came back times ahd changed so he jumped ship, became relevant again for a short time, then started getting booed so turned heel. He was great at seeing the direction the business was going in and staying relevant, Cena isn't as long as kids continue to beg their parents to buy the 2millioneth Cena t-shirt released this year he will never change. He will not ask change his character nor will WWE look to. Unfortunately he will break Flair's record and be 'officially' the best ever. This makes me sick a dreary, stale 40 year old man child will be viewed in the same esteem as true legends like Savage, Flair, Hart, Michaels, Taker etc

01 Oct 2014 20:05:31
On a scale of 1-10, what do you all think are the chances of the following competing in at least one WWE match in the future?

- Batista
- CM Punk
- Goldberg
- Jeff Hardy
- Kurt Angle
- Mick Foley
- The Rock
- Sting
- Stone Cold Steve Austin
- The Undertaker

I would like to see them all in the ring again, particularly Rock and Austin. Just interested to know what you all think and if there's anyone with any info on how likely each of them are. Failing that, have a guess lol.

1.) Working on the basis of 1 being not likely and 10 being very likely here are my thoughts.

- Batista - 9
- CM Punk - 8
- Goldberg - 6
- Jeff Hardy - 8
- Kurt Angle - 8
- Mick Foley - 2
- The Rock - 10
- Sting - 9
- Stone Cold Steve Austin - 9
- The Undertaker - 10

2.) For me just going by my gut feeling it would be;

Batista - 9
CM Punk - 7
Goldberg - 7
Jeff Hardy - 6
Kurt Angle - 6
Mick Foley - 2
The Rock - 9
Sting - 10
Stone Cold Steve Austin - 6
The Undertaker - 8

3.) I won't be surprised to see all of them in action in one off matches, with the exception of Foley who I met a little while ago and the poor guy can't even stand up straight.

I think now the WWE has embraced letting guys walk in for a one off big pay day all of those will get one more match.

I'm sure there will be a reason to bring the Hardy Boyz back, they are the ones who are probably the most unlikely to be given a chance again.

29 Sep 2014 15:47:44
Is there anyone left in the world who watches a full episode of SmackDown? Or RAW for that matter? Just catching up with this weeks and imo, for the most part, it is awful. I record both shows every week but skip the majority of them and play the bits that seem interesting to me. I love WWE and will never stop watching, I feel a certain loyalty to them, but the product is really bad at the moment. So frustrating given the level of talent that is available to them.

{Ed008's Note - I only watch Raw Live from time to time, don't have the time to watch Smackdown but Wrestling for me no matter how bad the product gets at times I find myself I can't stop watching it.

1.) Product as a whole is the worst it has been in years. People like Bray Wyatt who is arguably the most complete performer in the company has bot been on tv in 3 weeks but the Bellas get 20 minutes of talking a show.

The product is garbage. Guys like Ziggler, Wyatt, Cesaro, Cody Rhodes and Sandow should all be able right now to enter into a world title feud seemlessly but they messed that up and instead we have to watch absolute sh*t. Honestly think about it this show used to have SCSA coming down cracking some beers and beating people up or the Dudleys, Hardys and E & C beating the hell out of each other with tables ladders and chairs (oooh my). Now we have people in bunny suits dancing, bullsh*t angles with stunt doubles, the Bellas just talking trash with Jerry Springer, half an hour of HHH or Stephanie talking every show and worst of all an almost 50 year old manchild that cannot act, cannot wrestle and is has less athleticism and charisma than a brussel sprout as the number one guy for 10+ years. Only way this gets better is when Vince either leaves or crokes it and hopefully whoever takes over is better or someone with serious cash starts up a company that could rival this garbage. Unfortunately there are too many sheeple for any comapny to have a chance so my hope is for Vinces demise into retirement or the ground.

2.) If Cena is nearly 50 (he's 37) then does that mean I'm nearly 18 again?

3.) I meant to right 40 obviously.

4.) I don't watch either at normal pace, good luck to anyone who has 5 hours a week to watch Wrestling uninterrupted.

That's if you don't watch NXT or TNA in to the deal.

5.) 30 Sep 2014 18:02:27
I watch every Tuesday before I go to school so I get up at 6:15 and I usually finish watching raw at 7:00 so it lasts for me about 40 mins however I do watch most of the ppvs throughout

17 Sep 2014 21:21:40
What's everyone hoping the main event of WrestleMania 31 will be at this stage, realistically?

{Ed008's Note - Batista vs Triple H for the WWE World Championship..

1.) 17 Sep 2014 22:14:15
Brock v Bryan

{Ed008's Note - Helluva a match that would be!

2.) 17 Sep 2014 22:20:57
am going for Brock vs Bryan

3.) 17 Sep 2014 23:52:09
bryan vs brock

would like to see punk vs bryan but that's a bit of a long shot

4.) Heart wants Taker vs Brock II. Head says Reigns Vs Brock

5.) Can't see Brock v Bryan. If Cena can't beat Brock then would anyone believe Bryan had a chance. It will be Reigns unfortunately

6.) I am sure the headline will be Reigns or Bryan vs Brock for the title.

But the main event will be if they can keen Rollins Vs Ambrose as hot as its been and set up a blow off at Mania.

I will be impressed if Ambrose can stop Rollins cashing in right through until then, perhaps denying him pinning Brock after Elimination Chamber could be the final straw, setting up a big gimmick match for Mania.

7.) As it stands, I would love to see the three headline matches being;

WWE Championship
Brock Lesnar (C) vs The Rock

Dean Ambrose vs Seth Rollins

John Cena vs Roman Reigns

I don't think any of the 3 former Shield members are ready for the title yet, I would wait til at least the last night of his holding of the briefcase before Rollins cashes in, successfully or not.

I believe it would be more beneficial for Reigns, who will be the next big face of the company, to go over John Cena at this stage than be rushed into being champion.

Rock vs Brock, it may be two part-timers, but it would draw massive numbers and is a match I'd personally love to see.

8.) 18 Sep 2014 18:06:26
This thread proves that the most talented all rounder in the company has been buried (or at least forgotten about). Bray Wyatt.
Would rather see Bray v Ambrose at mania than the story with Seth (as good as its been so far) to run that long.

9.) I'm not certain that Bryan will be fit even for Wrestlemania.
Main event?
Brock - v - Orton.

Back-up
I can see a situation for a Shield triple threat match. I have a feeling that Ambrose & Reigns will not stay buddies until than.

Over-hyped match
Cena - v - anyone, but he will probably be the one to save the stars & stripes by beating Rusev.

Best Match
If the Shield one doesn't happen then a US Champios match involving Sheamus, Barrett, Cesaro & Swagger.

Most obvious match
AJ - v - Paige (again)

Surprise Match
Batista - v - HHH

Saddest mach
Taker - v?

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For me just going by my gut feeling it would be;

Batista - 9
CM Punk - 7
Goldberg - 7
Jeff Hardy - 6
Kurt Angle - 6
Mick Foley - 2
The Rock - 9
Sting - 10
Stone Cold Steve Austin - 6
The Undertaker - 8

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As it stands, I would love to see the three headline matches being;

WWE Championship
Brock Lesnar (C) vs The Rock

Dean Ambrose vs Seth Rollins

John Cena vs Roman Reigns

I don't think any of the 3 former Shield members are ready for the title yet, I would wait til at least the last night of his holding of the briefcase before Rollins cashes in, successfully or not.

I believe it would be more beneficial for Reigns, who will be the next big face of the company, to go over John Cena at this stage than be rushed into being champion.

Rock vs Brock, it may be two part-timers, but it would draw massive numbers and is a match I'd personally love to see.

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