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16 Apr 2014 18:21:49
I know I'm probably going to get blasted for this but why is everyone against cena u keep on going on that he didn't put over bray wyatt but then I think that's the right thing to do because if he won first time that would catapult him straight up to being like the rocks level ( as cena could not beat him first time but wyatt beat him first time. ) I think it would of been way to fast just like what happend to the miz I agree wyatt does need to win at extreme rules and it doesn't have to be clean over if he personally pins cena 1, 2, 3 then it goes down in the record books that wyatt def cena and people go on about him not putting people over well if he does that all the time people are going to have to start putting him over so he don't fall down the pecking order a lot and people will start winging again everyone looks at the bad of cena but at least he turns up every week for the past 12 yeah his in ring moves are predictable but so is randy ortons his character is not that good but nor is ortons or Batistas he would probably love playing the heel role again but he can't make that choice it is creative and it's not cena fault that kids have grown to him
Rant over
{Ed008's Note - His character is for the kids though?
1.) I know but what I'm trying to say is how much of what people are wining about cena actually cena fault as I said if he was allowed to play the heel role he probably would love it everyone goes on about cena where they should be having a go at creative (Vince or hh) like they do with everything else but when it comes to cena oh no we will just put the whole blame on cena
2.) I nominate this for worst post of the week for the simple fact it makes little to no sense.
BigBear
3.) What I'm saying everyone particularly u that blame cena for his character but he does not chose to be a heel or a face its creative who chooses that and I know his in ring matches are predictable but so is orton and is character is a bit bad but at least he's not trying to be a heel and fail at it big time (orton )
4.) Anyone who has been on top for as long as Cena has been definitely has a good bit of character control. HE chose to bury Nexus and Wade Barrett so how many more times do you think he has done something like that?
Yes Orton is stale right now but I have also witnessed him lose cleanly many times where Cena has not lost a match without an excuse since Batista about 4 years ago. There is no defending him and I get that he sells to kids but there is no need for him to essentially never lose a match without an excuse. Your argument about Bray not beating him first time also makes no sense because if we are going to go by that then Cena will never lose another match ever again if it is the first time he is facing that competitor. Every superstar before Cena done the right thing and passed the ball on to the next guy to run with it but he has just buried everyone and is definitely the worst face of a wrestling company of all time.
BigBear
5.) What I'm tying to say is if bray def him on the big stage that would move him so far up the wwe that it might of been too quick and then they won't know what to do with him because they moved him up that fast and no one want him to fall down a lot examples are miz and ryback so yes he does have to win at ER
And I'm not a cena fan by any means any one he goes against I cheer for them I just think what u and other people blame him for is not solely his fault
6.) Cena has a say behind the scenes, it's him along with creative who decide if he is going to put someone over or not. I feel Cena has more say behind the scenes than we realise.
End of the day Cena is a complete tosspot and WWE was better off when he was out injured.
7.) Cena is so insecure it is unbelievable, he knows he is garbage and that is why he does not want anyone getting a sniff. Look at Jericho for example he openly stated that he likes putting guys over if he sees something in them whereas that muppet just wants to bury everyone. I constantly go back to this but listen to Jericho and Edge talking about how they wanted nexus and Barrett to go over but Cena wanted his way they old him he was wrong but he did it anyway and buried Nexus. The clip is on YouTube if you search something like Jericho and Edge shoot on Cena.
BigBear
8.) I remember Tensai beating Cena clean on Raw lol
9.) When exactly did this match happen? I found two tensai vs Cena matches on YT, Cena won one and in the other was attacked by tensais manager, Otunga interfered twice, Tensai used the green mist and if you listen to the commentators they spend the full match talking about how Cenas head isn't in the game because of Rock, Lesnar and his world falling apart blah blah blah. So no clean losses there. Unless I have missed this match which is very possible as round about then I stopped watching RAW because it was terrible. If you could provide a video of this clean loss it would be much appreciated.
BigBear
10.) Green mist wasn't illegal though but it was probably a near clean loss for someone like Cena.
11.) 2 interferences though.
BigBear
12.) Agree with big bear trying to think last time cena lost cleanly without any injuries or interferences can't remember but did he lose to Kane at royal rumble in 2012 or something that is the last clean lose I think happened
Call
13.) They both got counted out Call then Kane beat Cena up with a chair backstage the Kane took Ryder out to the ring in the wheelchair, tombstoned him Cena ran back out and Kane chokeslammed him and just left.
BigBear
14.) Wow thanks BigBear I didn't know about nexus and when u mentioned some of that stuff wow he is so self centered I guess kind of like his wife surprised she isn't divas champ why hasn't he suggested that to creative
15.) Thanks big bear just looked that match up with the nexus they were the best thing happening at that point much like the Wyatt's are now I can see wyatt defeating cena at extreme rules via a distraction from Harper and Rowan possibly by entering the cage then next night on raw cena will do his nexus talk " one by one I will take you down" and knowing cena having a role in creative that will be the end of the Wyatt's just think from the original nexus in that 7 on 7 match really barrett is the only who getting a push ship Sheffield aka rybotch got a bit of a push. But think about the rest slater in comedy group, Gabriel jobbing on superstars, otunga haven't seen him wrestle in ages, tarver have no idea what has happened to him and young who is out for 4-6 months and still will be jobbing when he returns
He is the modern day HHH digging good superstars in to the ground once you've lost to cena you lose to everybody
Call
16.) From what I have heard the Bella Cena is going out with is an ego maniac as well. I heard she said in an interview that she would beat Ronda Rousey in a fight while her sister who comes across as the more humble and down to earth of the two was like hell naw I wouldn't fight her.
If you don't know who Ronda Rousey is then google her, she would destroy any WWE diva. She would probably beat me to a pulp.
BigBear
17.) Didn't Cena lose clean to Bryan at Summerslam 2013?
{Ed008's Note - That was never a clean loss..
16 Apr 2014 11:35:38
Just been thinking I kind if feel sorry for the people coming up from nxt because if people like Ziggler, sheamus and del rio are just jobbing how is people like Bo Dallas going to be any different I know the shield and the wyatts having done really well but they came up as a unit even big e Langston was jobbing with dolph then they decided to give him a ic run which he had a bit of momentum but recently u might as well take that belt away from him and at the moment Rusev is the latest to come up and I know it's early but he has faced xavier woods and then probably r truth next Monday and I'm sorry to say but it kind of feels like tensai when he first came back there is so much talent in wwe at the moment who is Jobbing e.g kofi, truth, miz, Christian, fandango and maybe even zack Ryder then u have just got superstars who don't have that much talent and wwe don't know what to do with them e.g 3mb, sin cara, Darren young, titus o'neil, Alex Riley, brodus clay and tensai so for their own sake and to free up the roster a bit release them
I also still think that there should be two separate rosters because when they said it was draft night that was a night I always looked forward too with some surprises
1.) There is no reason to have someone fight on Raw, Smackdown, and Main Event.
They absolutely flood the market and its easy to get bored with anyone because they are on telly so much.
They seem incapable of pushing more than 3 or 4 feuds at once and there are hours and hours of TV to fill.
16 Apr 2014 08:50:27
Just a thought if u could have 3 people to return to wwe (from only the past 5 years) for a reasonable amount of time e.g 3 years who would it be and why my 3 would be
1 Jeff hardy because wwe no longer has that I will do anything to impress the crowd and also no one with that kind of charisma
2 John Morrison simply because I think he was not used right by the wwe I think he could of gone a lot further and possible at the time have a long run as the whc champ and I would of even said wwe champ I know he had 2 or maybe 3 matches for it but it never really came of much
3 MVP I think he is in tna now but I think he should come back not as a top star straight away but maybe be a heel type MVP and get back as us champ and get back some prestige
Just missing out was Chris masters, shelton Benjamin and cm punk ( because he only left recently and I can't see him returning anytime soon ) {Ed008's Note - Jeff Hardy for a IC Title run, John Morrison to reunite with The Miz and become a Tag Team and Shelton Benjamin find an American become a Tag Team or run with IC-US Title run
1.) 1. Shelton Benjamin - Bring him back as a Zeb Coulter guy once Swagger fails to take down Cesaro. Just imagine Cesaro v Shelton matches with Zeb & Heyman involved.
2. Elijah Burke - Thought this guy was the total package in the early wwecw days but like Drew he got that cursed vote of confidence from Vince. He had a great move set & was a great speaker too. though he did have 1 or 2 stinkers vs Punk.
3. Kurt Angle - Enough said
Woody
2.) Just a few I'd like to see back in wwe
Jeff Hardy
Bully Ray
Shelton Benjamin
John Morrison
CM Punk
Edge (yes I know he's injured)
Some i'd like to see in wwe
Bad influence
Austin aires
Bobby Roode and James storm as a team again
Motor City machine Guns as a team
Yeahhhhhhhhwhoooooo
Johnson Barracks
3.) 1. Ric Flair just because Evolution has now reunited.
2. Chris Jericho, I'd like him to come back and feud with Cesaro, maybe have the IC title involved.
3. Jeff Hardy. I'd like to see how him and Rollins would get on in a feud.
4.) Stone Cold, if only for a few more PPV matches.
Ken Anderson, because he really seemed like a natural successor to SCSA, I haven't seen what TNA have done with him so I'm not influenced with that.
The Dudley Boyz, to come back feud with the Uso's.
5.) I'm going to do 4 =)
Jeff and Matt Hardy, make the tag team division good again.
Jericho
CM Punk
6.) Punker
Shelton
Chris Hero/Kassuis Ohno
7.) Angle
Morrison - but he hasn't got any charisma and will be mid card
Benjamin - same reasons as above
albo
12 Apr 2014 11:29:01
Just a thought what if cm punk did have that feud with triple hhh would who ever won enter the championship match later that night and who would it of been if it did happen and would of Batista left wrestlemania being the wwe world heavyweight champion?
1.) I think no, Punk would of been in his match with HHH. Batista would of beat Orton and Cena and Bryan would of faced the Wyatts in a 3 on 2 tag match.
BigBear
2.) I guess we will never know.
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Wow thanks BigBear I didn't know about nexus and when u mentioned some of that stuff wow he is so self centered I guess kind of like his wife surprised she isn't divas champ why hasn't he suggested that to creative
What I'm tying to say is if bray def him on the big stage that would move him so far up the wwe that it might of been too quick and then they won't know what to do with him because they moved him up that fast and no one want him to fall down a lot examples are miz and ryback so yes he does have to win at ER
And I'm not a cena fan by any means any one he goes against I cheer for them I just think what u and other people blame him for is not solely his fault
What I'm saying everyone particularly u that blame cena for his character but he does not chose to be a heel or a face its creative who chooses that and I know his in ring matches are predictable but so is orton and is character is a bit bad but at least he's not trying to be a heel and fail at it big time (orton )
I know but what I'm trying to say is how much of what people are wining about cena actually cena fault as I said if he was allowed to play the heel role he probably would love it everyone goes on about cena where they should be having a go at creative (Vince or hh) like they do with everything else but when it comes to cena oh no we will just put the whole blame on cena
Definatly push ziggler he is so over because he has got everything u want in a wrestler theme, looks and can damn right pull it off in the ring
Repackage Cody to what he used to be when he had that brilliant ic run
Fire Barrett I agree with BigBear he has been repackaged to many times and I thing his in ring name now is horrendous Bad News Barret are u having a joke yeah it was fine when he was doing that stupid but sometimes funny gimmick to get back on tv but his in ring name should of stayed Wade Barret
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