21 Jul 2015 22:56:31
I'm sorry but a lot of the cena bashing is ridiculous.

The guy hasn't been in a real wwe title feud in ages and seeing him back in it would, Imo be a nice change.

People bang on about how he's the focal point of the WWE and that's not strictly true, the focal point is whoever YOU have most interest in, for me at the moment it's the Wyatt family and Cena because I'm enjoying it.

It's quite evident that the focal point of the WWE right now, for the masses is Brock Lesnar vs The Undertaker.

P.s - his return was dreadful, I think he looks way past it and I'd rather he didn't come back into mainstream WWE.

I just can't buy Lesnar being beaten up by an old guy.


1.) 22 Jul 2015
22 Jul 2015 00:04:45
Kevin Owens was the hottest thing in WWE for me that's probably why I'm so upset Superkick. The stage was set the match was excellent the crowd wanted the title change Cena finally to lose one feud. One! Put over a real new talent one of the best wrestlers today a wrestler with all the credentials to be one of the best modern day Heels. Rusev & Wyatt before that. When Rusev won Cena didn't tap he passed out. Then Cena Taps Owens out Clean just disgusting awful booking helped no one but John Cena I cannot fathom how this is good for WWE. WM32 should without a shadow of a doubt be Undertakers last dance I'm going to enjoy every bit of him I can get until then. The Sheild Guys need to be elevated they should be carrying Sunmerslam. No new stars are being born right now apart from down in NXT. But if your just going to dominate all in front of you like Kevin Owens & even the Ascension then go Upto the main Roster & just be wasted what is the point.


2.) 22 Jul 2015
22 Jul 2015 00:56:14
So you can't see Lesnar being beat up by an old guy but you can see a guy who doesn't have the most basic wrestling skills fight the WWE Champ.


3.) 22 Jul 2015
22 Jul 2015 02:06:48
It's been 6 months since he was in the title picture. Hardly a long time is it?. Is 10 years of him being in the title picture and/or main event, almost every ppv not enough. Guys like Benoit and Guererro waited a decade and a half just to win the world titles but Cena has been out the main event for 6 months and we are supposed to thank him for it?. He has been in the title picture or main event for almost every ppv for like 8 years, enough is enough.

As for the focal point being whoever you follow, that is true to a degree. However everything I like just gets killed by Cena at some point. He is trash compared to some of the talent they have there, he can't even tighten up an stf he is that sh*t.


4.) 22 Jul 2015
22 Jul 2015 09:12:58
Cena's last title match was at the Royal Rumble only 6 months ago. A hand full of people have been involved in the title picture since then but not enough to make Cena fresh. For me its not just the time since he last had a title shot its just the last 10 years all together. In that 10 years Cena has held the championship 15 times. Cena is an established star and he doesn't need the championship to have relevance. He is doing a great job right now of putting over guys like Owens, Rusev & Cesaro and I think this is how he is best used right now. He already holds the US title so what would be the point of him going for the WWE belt too? If Cena does go on to face Rollins for the championship at Summerslam then does that mean the the US title will not get defended at the PPV? For me the US title open challenge is one of the best things in WWE at the moment at it would be such a waste to stop it just so Cena can have another World title shot.

I disagree that the focal point is your favorites. I really like the Ascension in nXt but they are never on TV. I really like Kalisto but I never see him. Cesaro is someone that the majority of people want to see in the limelight but will he ever be WWE's focal point, no. WWE always have their focal points. Cena is one, The Bellas help them push Total Divas and Lesnar is always one too. A good example of this is Daniel Bryan a couple of years back. He was the hottest thing in wrestling but WWE's focal point building up to Wrestlemania was the return of Batista. Luckily they saw the light and changed things.


5.) 22 Jul 2015
22 Jul 2015 09:41:54
Spot on mate , taker was so upset he waited 15 MONTHS to get his revenge, totally ignoring lesner at WrestleMania, why not attack him then? He is also way past his best and looked it , the most contrived unrealistic pull apart I have seen in a long time , truly shoddy writing again . It also steals the spot light from the guys who have been holding the wwe together, Ambrose could not even get a spot at battle ground totally ridiculous. Why not go the whole hog and just have a street fight between stone cold , Bret heart , Hogan , taker, flair ,Michaels and sting using Zimmer frames and walking sticks. I loved the attitude era as much as the next man but let's move on and let the new stars shine .

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6.) 22 Jul 2015
22 Jul 2015 10:38:26
I like Cena and I'll happily watch him do a little dance with Rollins.

I think everything Cena has been involved in since Mania has come off well, so don't worry about it and enjoy.


7.) 22 Jul 2015
22 Jul 2015 14:45:53
I don't think Taker is upset at getting beat, I think Taker is upset at the constant boasts from Paul Heyman.

It was the week before Battleground, he actually brought it up again and said something like "I know I'm not supposed to talk about it because we are good guys now but. " and went off about he conquered the streak.

The Deanman is always welcome for me.


8.) 22 Jul 2015
22 Jul 2015 15:04:00
I'd happily see Cena in another title feud.

the man can't win with some of you, if he put KO over and then went on to fight for the WWE title you'd still be moaning.

Like it or not Cena is the bench mark of sports entertainment, wrestling, what you want to call it. you can't expect him to not be involved in a big feud.

Cena has improved 10 fold and I would love to see him compete against Rollins. I don't like his gimmick but I do find him better in the ring.

I actually find KO really boring form a storyline point of view, he's brilliant in the ring but that doesn't count for much anymore as we all know.

The guy has just come out of NXT and you want him to destroy the biggest superstar of the past 15 years within a couple of months?

Come on guys.

Some of you just said that Benoit and Eddie had to wait years for their shots, so why is Owens going from nobody to U.S champion in a matter of months?

even more so when you consider how much the championships reputation has been raised since Cena won it.

I think this has done a lot for Kevin Owens, he won 1 out of 3 matches, and came very close in the other 2.

That's how it is, get over it.

As for Taker, I just can't buy it. the WM feuds were fine, quite refreshing in fact knowing that Undertaker season is right around the corner but having him back in a weekly feud just reeks of trying to get the viewing count up.

He's not so much past it, he can still wrestle but I would say he is no longer credible.

It's funny how 15 years ago Kane and Undertaker were two of the most over, talented and must see guys in the WWE and now, they've been reduced to a little bit of a laughing stock.

As for the Shield guys, Rollins has been so mis-used it's unreal. A poor mans Edge.

Ambrose has something very special, he reminds me of a Sandman, Stone Cold, Randy Orton crossover. But what can you do with a man like that in the PG Era? not an awful lot.

Reigns is great, his finisher annoys me, it's just silly but I like everything else about him. and imo he's being built the right way.

I think a lot of WWE fans want guys pushed too quickly, let them build up their reputations over a couple of years.

One final thing, the Authority is getting so boring, It's about time a real stable was built, every 5-10 years or so we get a dominating faction. DX, NWO, Horsemen, the Ministry, etc.

The Shield tried and failed, Nexus tried and failed, God knows what New Day are (although I like them, I guess they're a modern day FBI) but the WWE need something long lasting.

All I see from the Authority is a rehash of the Cabinet stable with JBL.

Who would you guys put in a stable and what would you call them?

I'd have Orton as the brains behind it.
KO, Samoa Joe, Cesaro, Bo Dallas, Ryback & Ziggler as members

They haven't got to kill everyone in sight, they can still do their own thing but they've just got to show some form of a connection like the NWO did.

Split the WWE title have Orton go after the WWE title and perhaps Cesaro, KO or Joe go after the WHC, form a tag team with 2 other guys.

Then have the main 4 be; Orton, Cesaro, KO and Joe with the others being around, wearing their merchandise, etc.


9.) 22 Jul 2015
22 Jul 2015 15:15:44
For me even if they wheeled out Taker in his actual final coffin I'd still buy into and want him to rise up one last time.

I think Brock owes Taker a clean victory after taking the streak (and various victories over him in his first run) so sit back and enjoy it, put your belief on the shelf for a couple of months and embrace the "entertainment" part of the industry


10.) 22 Jul 2015
22 Jul 2015 17:15:21
In the ring Cena hasn't really evolved at all, its basically an illusion & propaganda they've created that he has. After 15 years he's still as green as the day he first walked in the door. Hows he evolved, because of a few new moves he's done in recent months. A couple of those are just basic power moves which are no issue for someone with his strength. Then you have that ridiculous eyesore known as the springboard stunner which looks absolutely hideous & I only recall him hitting it clean(ish) once & don't get me started on that powerbomb move that lucha's usually do.
Dont get me wrong this last few months as US champ for me is the best run of his career. It was being booked so well where on occasions he looked vunerable & it took outside interference to hold on to the title & we got some really good matches from it (some of which made my top 10 I put up recently). But they was only good because of the time given to the opponents from working with Cena but ya Cesaro's, Owens', Neville's & Zayn's can make anybody look good. Cena never elevated them, they've elevated Cena & with the help of the stooges on commentary they've made people believe Cena can wrestle.
After Battleground I was pissed off about the tapout (should have passed out) but thought ok Owens will still come out in the end but after that segment on Raw I don't know. If Seth v Cena is the road they are going down now then that's a massive slap in the face to the guys that have wrestled Cena in the last few months, nobodys been elevated except Cena himself.


11.) 22 Jul 2015
22 Jul 2015 17:51:17
As for saying taker is a laughing stock , don't know how you dare the man is a walking legend been in wwe for 25 years and can still hold up he looks to be in great shape and I think this is the undertakers final run in wwe so he deserves everything that will come to him


12.) 22 Jul 2015
22 Jul 2015 18:31:14
Even if taker comes out on crutches I'd probably still watch him. Only a handful experiences left so savour each one. As for cena owens the whols situation is an absolute disgrace. Wwe have screwed up again. Try making a new star instead of pushing cena whenever ratings are down.


13.) 22 Jul 2015
22 Jul 2015 18:52:59
Got mixed feelings about both topics here. Taker is a legend and one of my all time favourite wrestlers, but his return was just random and I'm not sure I want to see him v Lesnar. Having said that, the brawl was good fun and hopefully they're SummerSlam match will be better than their one at WM. As for Cena, I'm not fan at all and I was really annoyed he made Owens tap. Owens should have passed out or taken a pin but not tapped. I don't want Cena in the title scene either.


14.) 22 Jul 2015
22 Jul 2015 21:34:46
Sick of this Cena ass kissing, how about the guy actually loses a feud for once in his life?. He can never just lose a match and move on, he always gets the win back. Why should I invest in any feud he is ever in when I know how every single one of them ends. The only time he hasn't in recent times is Lesnar, but even them they had the story play out like he was about to win until Rollins appeared.

Even when Cena get's into a feud that has some interesting stuff in it, there is no point to anything as he just wins every time. One of the great things about someone in his position is that he can put over younger guys that have potential, he never does that though. He just takes the hot upcoming act and beats them. Selfish d*ck


15.) 23 Jul 2015
23 Jul 2015 08:13:15
RBB - surely this is Vince's influence though? Look at Hogan - exact same thing. Only suffered a loss if he was going on a break for filming - and always got the win back at some point even so far as to change a wrestlemania finish.

I don't particularly like Cena - he's Hogan light for me but I see where he fits in with the companies "hero" status for the kids and casual fans. If it wasn't him it would be someone else elevated to that spot. Its wrestling 101 throughout the ages.


16.) 23 Jul 2015
23 Jul 2015 15:11:44
Ain't no one been as bad as Cena has, for as long as he has. The difference between him and Hogan though, is that Hogan was a massive draw, since Cena got on top WWE viewing figures fell every single year. Cena is a big draw for kids and women where as Hogan drew i'm everyone. As for changing the outcome of matches, obviously Vince has final say, but Cena has a lot of say on where his character goes and the results of matches. Nexus were supposed to go over team WWE and Cena changed it to him winning from a 2 on 1 situation, if he has done it once then you can guarantee he has done it many times.


17.) 23 Jul 2015
23 Jul 2015 20:40:04
The point with Cena is that he is not as bad as a lot of people make him out to be, but neither is he as good as 'one of the all time greats' that the WWE are selling him as.
His greatest asset is his longevity and he was in exactly the right place at exactly the right time for the product that the WWE morphed into after the Attitude Era.
There were far greater talents, Michaels, Taker, Orton, Edge, Jericho, Rock, I could go on and on, but in fairness, Cena has turned up week in and week out and Vince has rewarded his loyalty by making him the face of the WWE. Today there are greater talents, Cesaro, Ambrose, Rollins,and Orton still, but Vince has faith in Cena and while continues to wrestle, he will always be his main man.
What I and a lot of people object to is the talent that Cena has undeservedly walked over and has effectively stalled their careers. This is what is unforgivable. Cesaro, Owens and Rusev have had great matches against him, but we all knew Cena would win in the end. Only a matter of time before The Champ Is Here again.


18.) 23 Jul 2015
23 Jul 2015 23:11:02
I honestly think he is as bad as I say he is. What does he do that is good?

Break down individual components of things and he does one thing well and that is he is a beast in the weight room. His psychology and selling are non existent, his moves, bar a few, are sloppy. He can't throw a punch to save his life. He takes bumps terribly, bar a ddt which I will credit him for. You can see and hear him calling spots almost every match. He in general just looks extremely awkward at times.

See if he at least made an attempt to better himself I would be a bit less venomous towards him. Austin told him on his poscast that he needed to tighten up that STF and make it more snug, and it still looks like sh*t. Instead of trying to add in new moves why doesn' he try and master his current ones first?. Look at they way Owens through the 5 knuckle shuffle on Balor in Japan then look at the way Cena does it.

Does Cena turn up every week, yes he does. Wooowww a person turns up for their JOB that they get paid millions for, plenty of others have done the exact same for a lot less money. WWE could of done what they done with Cena with Orton easily and probably D Bryan and CM Punk but it has always been about the King of shovels himself, John Cena.


19.) 24 Jul 2015
24 Jul 2015 10:08:31
I would say since Wrestlemania anyone who says John Cena has not tried to improve himself has their head in the ground.

The WWE's bread and butter is the hero always wins in the end, the only real crime is that WWE hasn't freshened the Hero for a decade.

Bryan, Punk, and Reigns all flirted with the idea of being the hero, but they can't outlast or topple super John.


20.) 24 Jul 2015
24 Jul 2015 14:02:25
But what has he done to improve himself. Break it down for me because clearly I am not seeing it. He has longer overrated matches, where his opponent does the majority of the work, I can see that.

People keep telling me he has improved, but no one has told what he has improved. I think his Raw matches are overrated, they are the same thing over and over again. Big move, false finish, big move, false finish, big move, false finish and then they kick out of each others finishers once or twice and on cue the crowd start chanting this is awesome. For me this does not constitute a great match, it isn't terrible, but just constant kicking out of things doesn't impress me that much.


21.) 25 Jul 2015
25 Jul 2015 16:51:43
I agree with you Bear, I really do. All Cena has going for him is his strength. His 'technical' moves are so bad they are laughable. His US open challenge has allowed great up and coming wrestlers to make Cena look good. His winning against the odds is tiresome at best.
What I was trying to say, even though it is his job, more than any other wrestler, Cena is always there. I can't think of anyone else who has turned up so consistently and over such a long period of time.
He does all the PR Vince wants him to do. This may well be because he knows when he is on to a good thing, but he does at least deserve a modicum of respect.